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Media Scene => TV Discussion => Topic started by: on July 26, 2010, 05:16:10 AM
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New HBO series based on the first book 'A Game of Thrones' in the series 'A Song of Ice and Fire' by George R. R. Martin.
"Seven noble families fight for control of the mythical land of Westeros. Political and sexual intrigue abound. The primary families are the Stark, Lannister, and Baratheon families. Robert Baratheon, King of Westeros, asks his old friend Eddard Stark to serve as his chief advisor. Eddard, suspecting that his predecessor had been murdered, accepts so that he can investigate further. It turns out more than one family is plotting to take the throne. The Queen's family, the Lannisters, may be hatching an incestuous plot to take control. Across the sea, the last surviving members of the previously deposed ruling family, the Targaryens, are also plotting a return to power. The conflict between these families and others, including the Greyjoys, the Tullys, the Arryns, and the Tyrells, leads to war. Meanwhile, in the north, an ancient evil awakens. Amidst war and the political confusion, a brotherhood of misfits, The Night's Watch, is all that stands between the realms of men and the horrors beyond."
After reading the synopsis, it immediately sounded like a winner for a good HBO series. I told my girlfriend about it since we both like the fantasy genre, and she said that she actually read the first book that this is based on and that it's one of her favorite books.
Well. I just finished reading 'A Game of Thrones' and now I'm even more pumped for this series. It's extremely character driven. I kind of want to open a separate thread just to go on about how good the book is. I see some people have already mentioned it in several threads in off-topic before though.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/
Sean Bean as Lord Eddard Stark:
http://winter-is-coming.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/634424_GOT_HS_Nov02_DSC5534.jpg
20 second teaser:
http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1100909&filter=game-of-thrones&view=null
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interesting, maybe i'll read the book to prep for this
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awesome i just bought the first book
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awesome i just bought the first book
I came when I saw this. I've been in the middle of the 2nd book for a couple years cuz i got on a non-fiction kick but I'll have to pick it up again. Gotta love it when more than one of your favorite fantasy series go on-screen. This show will rock worlds--got just enough sorcery to make it interesting but not over-the-top and intrigue that makes Tudors look like a walk in the park. With hbo budget and rating I'm excited to see what they can do with it.
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Can't go wrong with an HBO drama.
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The books are great.
I hope Martin finishes the series (books) before he dies. The last couple of years he's doing everything but writing.
I'm really curious and thrilled about this tv serie. Good to see HBO is in charge.
It can't be worse than that awful Legend of the Seeker. Books were fine, tv series suck. At least Song of Fire and Ice are more mature.
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Game.of.Thrones.S01E00.720p.HDTV.x264-CTU
A 10 minute documentary/sneak peak of the show.
It does look amazingly good!
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Is it the one that came out a few weeks ago and is also on youtube?
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Looking forward to this. SoFI is the best fantasy series out there along with LotR and WoT. SoFI is my favorite of the three. Should be a good TV show.
Oh, and I hope GRRM finishes his goddamn series already. It's been more than a decade since Storm of Swords, and all he published in-between was the incomplete Feast for Crows. Come on, man!
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I've only read the first book of the series and enjoyed it very much. But since the author takes forever to release the books, I've decided to put the rest in hold, just in case he dies before finishing it or by the time the next books come, I've forgotten everything.
Now, with the TV series, I'm undecided if I should read everything before "spoiling" my vision of the series (characters, landscapes, etc) with someone else's vision...
What do you think?
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Is it the one that came out a few weeks ago and is also on youtube?
This is the one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psbBi7dLnT4
Sabbath, that's a hard one and you have to decide for yourself. I've read all the books and I'm happy with how the tvseries look, but it kinda ruins the self created image I had after reading.
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If this is supposed to be a good show, it'll have references to the books. So prior to watching it, reading the books should in theory be best.
The last book was average though. The writer even apologizes for the book and tells the readers he'll progress the story in his next book. What a dipshit. Why did you write that useless book then?
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If this is supposed to be a good show
This is HBO. When was the last time they had a bad show?
Anyway, a bunch of teasers: http://thevoiceoftv.com/blog/is-game-of-thrones-hbos-new-hit-show-watch-the-videos-and-tell-us/32079
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First 14 minutes of the pilot: http://thevoiceoftv.com/blog/game-of-thrones-watch-first-14-minutes/33764
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First 14 minutes of the pilot: http://thevoiceoftv.com/blog/game-of-thrones-watch-first-14-minutes/33764
O M G
I want to see this show so bad.
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I'm also looking forward for those 10 episodes. Just two weeks to go.
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so far so good, but at that pace i'm not sure how they'll fit the whole book into 10 episodes, 14 minutes and they havent even got to the direwolves yet
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I watched the first scene and wasnt happy. Where the fuck were those mysterious knights and their ultra thin swords, with their icicle voices? It wasnt the dead that came back to life, it was Royce after he got slaughtered by the knights.
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Game.of.Thrones.S01E01.HDTV.XviD-FEVER
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Loved the pilot, as did everyone else in our viewing party. And we are all big fans of the books. Look for HBO to announce season two tomorrow from what I've been hearing. The Renaissance of the genre series has reached its zenith.
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I'll be watching this tonight. I'm almost afraid, with all the hype around it.
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This was fucking awesome.
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awesome first episode, overall i like their choices for characters and so forth. i'll be watching the whole season.
although i dont know how much someone who hasnt read the books will like it... my girl had no interest in watching.
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Brilliant stuff. A+
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Brilliant pilot.
although i dont know how much someone who hasnt read the books will like it
I've not read the books and I thought the pilot was awesome. Is there any blatant magic in the series though like fireballs and shit or just the White Walker type stuff that they showed? I much prefer low fantasy to high fantasy.
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If I remember correctly there were no magicians or such in the books. It's main focus are the relations between persons and houses.
But still there is plenty of fantasy still to come ;)
Btw, f*ing brilliant show. Exactly what I hoped it to be.
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I've watched and enjoyed it, although I think it wasn't enough to grab the viewers who didn't read the books.
But there are many good series that had not so interesting pilots but managed to become increasingly good.
The cliffhanger in the end certainly spiked my fiancée's interested (she forced me to tell her what happened to Bran), I hope it will be enough to make people stick with the series a little bit longer.
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Is there any blatant magic in the series though like fireballs and shit or just the White Walker type stuff that they showed? I much prefer low fantasy to high fantasy.
There are some magicians, or rather, some people who can harvest the power of certain Gods. Still not that many though, which I agree is a good thing and what makes this series so great is that the fantasy is kept low enough to not be over the top, but at the same time is still there to make it interesting. Most people in the book don't even believe in magic or the walking dead because they don't even know they exist.
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Much, much better than Camelot.
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I like how they blended something that looked like old greece with the more typical medieval setting. In general I think it was really good and I've never read the books. Pretty harsh environment for the kids though and the Queen was an ice queen. Nice acting and casting.
And it's also been renewed for a second season already;D
http://io9.com/#!5793562/game-of-thrones-renewed-for-a-second-season
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The only that can break this show is the ending. HBO ends its shows before it drags, but teh books will never finish before book 9-10 judging by the pace. Maybe they'll let their own writers come up with an ending when the time comes.
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A Song of Ice and Fire is going to be a six book saga. The 5th book will finally be released this summer.
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Brilliant pilot.
although i dont know how much someone who hasnt read the books will like it
I've not read the books and I thought the pilot was awesome. Is there any blatant magic in the series though like fireballs and shit or just the White Walker type stuff that they showed? I much prefer low fantasy to high fantasy.
magic in the books is used very sparingly and is rare and difficult to use, but it does exist
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A Song of Ice and Fire is going to be a six book saga. The 5th book will finally be released this summer.
nah i heard the saga has 2 more books even after the one is released this summer. and since the first book came out in the early 90s, it'll be AT LEAST 5 years each for subsequent books
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Originally it was planned to be a trilogy, but the author later said it would be 7 books. Of course, that was before he decided to split the 4th book (feast for crows), so we don't know if now it will be 8 books...
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Originally it was planned to be a trilogy, but the author later said it would be 7 books. Of course, that was before he decided to split the 4th book (feast for crows), so we don't know if now it will be 8 books...
I believe before the split it was supposed to be 6, after that it was said to be a 7 part series. A Song of Ice and Fire wiki says 7 as well
1. A Game of Thrones - August 1996
2. A Clash of Kings - November 1998
3. A Storm of Swords - August 2000
4. A Feast for Crows - October 2005
5. A Dance with Dragons - (Announced) July 12, 2011
6. The Winds of Winter - (Forthcoming)
7. A Dream of Spring - (Forthcoming)
Hopefully the last 3 books will be released in the same time frame as the first 3, or we may never see this series complete on TV, or even worse, through the books.
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1st episode was money
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Game of Thrones S01E02 HDTV XviD-FQM
HBO gives me hard-on everytime
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I didn't watch it yet, but I already know the removed the polemic "it should be you" line from Catelyn to Jon. And "It's called Summer", from a certain other character, when his direwolf is executed...
I don't understand there omissions. I mean, it's okay all those soft porn scenes and even pushing a kid from the window... But a mean line from Cathlyn is censored?
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Good show. The casting is perfect. The only problem is, as Sabbath and vomitory said, that the show's images may replace your own - which sucks.
Almost all characters in the series are great, including the ones you love to hate. My favorites are Tyrion and Jaime Lannister. Jon Snow is also cool. Those of you who haven't read the books are in for tons of fun.
If you like political intrigue in a medieval/classical setting, also try the classic "I, Claudius":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074006/
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2nd episode was a bit slow. I didn't read any of the books and I didn't even know about the books until this thread, so sue me.
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2nd episode was a bit slow. I didn't read any of the books and I didn't even know about the books until this thread, so sue me.
I didn't either (although I am enjoying the show) so how about we split those legal fees :lol:
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Heh, deal.
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It's building up the story, shit will hit the fan soon no worries.
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It's building up the story, shit will hit the fan soon no worries.
Yah, the episodes are parts of a whole. This mini-series is more a 10 hour movie than a weekly show.
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Mini-series? A second season is already confirmed.
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i cant believe i missed the first two episodes of this!!!
i love the books, as soon as i found out i started getting them. cant wait till they finish downloading.
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i cant believe i missed the first two episodes of this!!!
Maybe you should visit the General TV Discussion more often? :)
Pretty much every show worth watching has a thread here.
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GRRM finished the latest book a few days ago, it ships july 12
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i cant believe i missed the first two episodes of this!!!
Maybe you should visit the General TV Discussion more often? :)
Pretty much every show worth watching has a thread here.
for sure... though it seems they didnt really make as big deal of the wolves as they did in the book
spoiler
when ned killed lady i remember it being a lot more tragic in the books than it seemed in the show
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i'm on page 320/820ish of the book and i'm afraid to start watching this series , the people that have read the book and watched the series so far do you recommend i refrain from viewing these episodes?
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book is probably better so far, just finish the book then catch up on the eps
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i'm on page 320/820ish of the book and i'm afraid to start watching this series , the people that have read the book and watched the series so far do you recommend i refrain from viewing these episodes?
i would say finish reading the book before watching the show, yeah. if only because you dont want to ruin your mental images of the characters / locations, but the book is a lot more detailed.
also some links that may help through the series - if you havent read the books
a map, which is always useful
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QNgFA7OlZJ0/TaZVCUi6IcI/AAAAAAAABd0/Ol8vuzkGHxs/s1600/Map_Westeros_Political.gif
and a list of the characters - pretty much all of them are significant characters, they may not be the "major characters of the story" but they all play a role in the story somehow
http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Characters/
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perhaps a little off-topic but ehh..
how do ya'll manage to 'keep up' with a fantasy (book) series like this? I think I read the first two books when they were released, but I never bothered picking up the third book because I knew I had to wait ten friggin years to conclude the series.
having seen the first episode of the TV series made me wonder about the books again..
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perhaps a little off-topic but ehh..
how do ya'll manage to 'keep up' with a fantasy (book) series like this? I think I read the first two books when they were released, but I never bothered picking up the third book because I knew I had to wait ten friggin years to conclude the series.
having seen the first episode of the TV series made me wonder about the books again..
i found them about a year and a half ago so i just read all of them that were available at the time... which is all of them that are currently available
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episode 3 is out. good imagry of the wall. also meeting syrio for the first time. also alliser thorne, lord commander mormont, maester luwin, peytr and varys
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Another great episode. It's starting to feel a bit like Boardwalk Empire, a lot of intense talking. I also enjoyed the power balance shifts some of the characters felt. They had in previous episodes been strong and seemingly untouchable but in this episode had their asses handed to them in some ways by new characters. It's turning more complicated, and just really good all around.
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episode 3 is out. good imagry of the wall. also meeting syrio for the first time. also alliser thorne, lord commander mormont, maester luwin, peytr and varys
Damn you guys are good with names. I usually have trouble following some dialogues because I have no idea who they are referring to (much like in real life, though).
Also, good point about the map. I was actually confused about the locations, but then I actually payed attention to the intro, and it gave me a good idea where the fuck everything is happening.
The Dathraki (sp?) story is probably the weakest for me, it just does not strike much interest. All the other back stories are intriguing. Peter Dinklage does a hell of a job in his role, IMO. Loving the show so far.
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The Dathraki (sp?) story is probably the weakest for me, it just does not strike much interest.
I haven't seen eps 2 and 3 yet but with the books I found the Dathraki story the most surprising. Things will happen my friend ;)
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ya the dothraki storyline in the first book for the first maybe like 3/4 i didnt really care for either, but its buildup for some epic times. honestly tho, i think theyre trying to compress it too much. a lot of the characters arent even mentioned yet, their names, or what they are supposed to be, even though they appear often, roderick, pycell and theon come to mind right off the bat. i kind of wished they kept the wedding scene where daenerys was given the gifts by drogos bloodriders because at least at that point they would have been introduced to the audience.
also that was a typo, didnt mean to say luwin, meant to say maester aemon... its been a while since i read the books so its easy to get confused since there are so many characters
anybody know how many episodes this is supposed to be?
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I believe there will be 10 episodes.
I'm wondering if they will completely change the title of the show for the second season? I think that would lead to confusion to those not familiar with the titles of the books, but on the other hand, assuming each season will encompass everything that's happened on a book to book basis, I don't see how they could continue calling it Game of Thrones in the second season. Of course, that IS what the general storyline of the books are, a game of thrones, so maybe that will be a proper title and they will just leave it at that knowing that those familiar with the books will recognize the forthcoming seasons as using the next book in line as the plot, while those not familiar the books will just see subsequent seasons as being a continuation of one giant, awesome story.
I'm really enjoying this show and hoping that their budget will allow them to keep coming out with more seasons so we can see the entirety of this series released on TV. The books are still superior though, but I'm sure that's not the first time you heard someone say that.
BTW, Stupid Sansa is easily becoming my least favorite character in this series, just as she is in the books. Seven Hells! I hate her ignorance and prissiness.
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It's quality TV and very true to the books, but it moves at a superfast speed. I'd have some WTF moments if I hadn't read the books.
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perhaps a little off-topic but ehh..
how do ya'll manage to 'keep up' with a fantasy (book) series like this? I think I read the first two books when they were released, but I never bothered picking up the third book because I knew I had to wait ten friggin years to conclude the series.
having seen the first episode of the TV series made me wonder about the books again..
i have a text file that i update every few months. it has all the upcoming books i'm interested in, any series i need to keep an eye on, authors i like to keep track of, and tentative release dates for upcoming books. (I do a similar thing with movies i want to keep an eye for so I dont forget). my text files are backed up every so often, and the backups are kept in a lockbox that only myself and Al Gore have the key to.
here is the pasted text from my text file:
not out yet:
dance with dragons - grrm (July 2011??)
rk morgan... The Dark Commands (the cold commands) Richard K. Morgan (Hardcover - 12 Apr 2011 /or oct. 11, 2011)
the next sapkowski - times of contempt (4/2011 or 2012)
lev grossman - magicians sequel (fall 9/2011?)
stephenson... The Mongoliad / baroque cycle / whatever else he does
peter brett (warded man) - The Daylight War (Estimated 2012)
Brent Weeks - Black Prism sequel (2012?)
Brent Weeks - The Way of Shadows (3 in series)
Scott Lynch - locke lamora book 3
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I guess it's nice to have a list of what you already have read/need to read. Problem for me is that I have plenty of fantasy (book) series that I read for 80%, then started with another one (because the first one wasn't finished yet), and on and on and on. At the end of the day, when I want to finish serie A, I already forgot most of the shit that happened, or at least I'm confused by some of the other (dozens of) books.
Finding concluded quality fantasy is friggin hard in my experience. And I like saga's.
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BTW, Stupid Sansa is easily becoming my least favorite character in this series, just as she is in the books. Seven Hells! I hate her ignorance and prissiness.
I hate her, too! The one I hate the most is Lady Stark (Cat). A lot of people like Cat and Sansa, though.
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My favorite characters from the books were Arya, Tyrion and Jon. The same is the case in the show. Can't get better than that I'd say.
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It's quality TV and very true to the books, but it moves at a superfast speed. I'd have some WTF moments if I hadn't read the books.
So far i can follow it just fine. It's probably good that I dont know what I miss with respect to details that are in the book.
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My favorite characters from the books were Arya, Tyrion and Jon. The same is the case in the show. Can't get better than that I'd say.
It's hard to pick 3. Arya, Tyrion, and Jon are all good characters. I'm close to finishing the 3rd book though and finding Sandor Clegane and Jaime Lannister both (surprisingly) reaching the top of my list.
^^ edited so anyone won't know who is still living by the 3rd book.
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My favorite characters from the books were Arya, Tyrion and Jon. The same is the case in the show. Can't get better than that I'd say.
list of favorite characters
^^ edited so anyone won't know who is still living by the 3rd book.
i think this is the general consensus from people who have read the books.
syrio is also a total badass. kind of cant wait for the starks to be branded as traitors just so we can see syrio take down 5 armored guards with a wooden sword <spoiler text
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd66/davyc412/1304597391504.jpg?t=1304597549
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They did a really really good job with this series.
I just watched episode 5 and I can't wait to see the next one.
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Another great episode. Damn I laughed hard at that kiddo sucking on the tit. Just after I read a thread on another forum about breastfeeding in public :D
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the gore levels seem to go up every episode..."the mountain" was pretty pissed at his horse :)
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+1 to the tittie sucking kid, another +1 for yet another doggie style sex scene, -1 for the full frontal male nudity in the scene and -1 for the gay shaving and cock sucking scene...
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...Damn I laughed hard at that kiddo sucking on the tit...
Yeah is that actually legal?
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...Damn I laughed hard at that kiddo sucking on the tit...
Yeah is that actually legal?
Why? It wasnt done in a sexual situation, breast feeding isnt illegal.
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...Damn I laughed hard at that kiddo sucking on the tit...
Yeah is that actually legal?
i doubt it was really a lactating breast, what are the chances the actress was lactating...
now to let a little boy actor suck a big ol tittie... hehe he will be the coolest kid in school
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I'm not suggesting it should be illegal, but it probably hasn't escaped your notice that the U.S. is full of moon-bat fundamentalists. So I was a bit surprised it made it into the show.
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After Spartacus' cast fucking, pissing and shitting, I guess TV land has finally grown up.
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Well technically it was a fake tit judging by the way it was exposed. That hag wouldn't have come up with a tit like that.
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Yeah I highly doubt they would have him actually sucking on her tit being of that age, nor do I think the actress would want to.
Another amazing episode. A bit step up from last weeks I reckon. Woooo!
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Yet another great episode!
Open the moon door, fucking awesome.
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Quality. Just pure quality. I think the last show that I saw that had such high production values and quality was Band of Brothers.
This latest episode was awesome: the trial by combat at The Eyrie, Stark flexing his power, Drogo's "crown" for Targeryn....brilliant.
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The blonde queen did not get burned by the dragon egg, but her servant did. Later she mentioned that her brother was not a true dragon. Does this mean that she is? And that also her son might be?
I am not at all familiar with the books, I had not even heard of them after I saw the first couple of episodes but I really like it so far.
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Quality. Just pure quality. I think the last show that I saw that had such high production values and quality was Band of Brothers.
This latest episode was awesome: the trial by combat at The Eyrie, Stark flexing his power, Drogo's "crown" for Targeryn....brilliant.
You clearly haven't seen Rome.
This show just keep getting better and better by each episode.
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This show just keep getting better and better by each episode.
Yep my thought exactly. So awesome, great. Ahh.
The only thing I didn't quite understand was the stuff about Geoffreys golden hair and all the others having black hair. What does that mean exactly?
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The only thing I didn't quite understand was the stuff about Geoffreys golden hair and all the others having black hair. What does that mean exactly?
He's not the king's kid. He's probably the kid of the queen and her brother.
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Yep my thought exactly. So awesome, great. Ahh.
The only thing I didn't quite understand was the stuff about Geoffreys golden hair and all the others having black hair. What does that mean exactly?
You remember Jon Aryn saying "the seed is strong" when he died? The seed was the king's. He meant that all his bastards had black hair, so his official kids having blonde hair set him off.
The blonde queen did not get burned by the dragon egg, but her servant did. Later she mentioned that her brother was not a true dragon. Does this mean that she is? And that also her son might be?
Why she did not get burned is not explained in teh books if I remember correctly.
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Game Of Thrones S01E07 WebRip
Fake or not?
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Real, SD though. I'm sure making an early release US website restricted is logical. I can't figure it out though.
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You clearly haven't seen Rome.
This show just keep getting better and better by each episode.
Indeed, Rome was also pure awesomeness just like this show.
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Game Of Thrones S01E07 WebRip
Fake or not?
dont know if that particular one is real or not, the one i have is by [ejisux].
good episodes. everything is starting to come together. the bronn fight is exactly how i imagined it, though the 10 minute long lesbian sex scene in episode 7 was just so way out of place and im pretty sure that littlefinger didnt spell out his MO to a couple of his whores in the books.
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Why would you want to watch a series like GoT in low resolution. It's a crime to watch it in something less than 720p.
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Quality. Just pure quality. I think the last show that I saw that had such high production values and quality was Band of Brothers.
This latest episode was awesome: the trial by combat at The Eyrie, Stark flexing his power, Drogo's "crown" for Targeryn....brilliant.
You clearly haven't seen Rome.
.... or Carnivale.
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Why would you want to watch a series like GoT in low resolution. It's a crime to watch it in something less than 720p.
im getting the 720p versions for those that are available, but even though i know what is going to happen through the first 4 seasons, i couldnt help myself.
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That kid robert arryn is fucked up. Everyone around him are just toys there to entertain him and he has no emotional development whatsoever it seems. I also thought it was messed up how the big dude crouched down after he poured the liquid gold over his head, as if to look him in the eyes as he died. Creepy :P
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Quality. Just pure quality. I think the last show that I saw that had such high production values and quality was Band of Brothers.
This latest episode was awesome: the trial by combat at The Eyrie, Stark flexing his power, Drogo's "crown" for Targeryn....brilliant.
You clearly haven't seen Rome.
.... or Carnivale.
Don't even get me started on Carnivale, that show had so much potential in it. Sad that they never got to finish the story.
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Carnivale was one of the best shows I, personally, have ever watched. I'm a huge HBO fanboy and respect almost everything they put out but that show was on another level.
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That kid robert arryn is fucked up. Everyone around him are just toys there to entertain him and he has no emotional development whatsoever it seems. I also thought it was messed up how the big dude crouched down after he poured the liquid gold over his head, as if to look him in the eyes as he died. Creepy :P
robert (or robin in teh show) arryn has some sort of mental issue. hes afflicted with something that gives him constant seizures, add to that a crazy ass mother who dotes on him all the time because shes just nuts, the kids bound to be mentally fucked.
the dothraki spend most of their time raping, killing and enslaving people so they can rape and kill them. killing people is a way of life for them.
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well guess im starting to watch rome and hope it's as good as u guys make it out to be. Also can't wait for the new GoT episode (which will probably take 2 weeks because i watched the darn web-leak)
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well guess im starting to watch rome and hope it's as good as u guys make it out to be. Also can't wait for the new GoT episode (which will probably take 2 weeks because i watched the darn web-leak)
Rome is well worth your time. Great show.
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*Servs goat testicles*
"Eat them while they're warm my dear, they put oak in your penis."
im sold.
edit:
"You will penetrate someone today or i will do stuff...."
Thats a mother id want.
GOD i literally can't stop watching.
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Atia is awesome :lol: great tits too!
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Oh man, i feel for lord Stark. Game of Thrones aka Game of Deceptions.
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Oh man, i feel for lord Stark. Game of Thrones aka Game of Deceptions.
That is always what happens to honest people, they get fucked over by assholes
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So one should be a dick, at all times.
PS. the books really piss on every gullible, naive character.
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PS. the books really piss on every gullible, naive character.
Then i fear something bad will happen to that fat guy up at night's watch.
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MUST... NOT... SPOIL
not really a spoiler but whatever
suffice it to say, almost all the naive characters get owned hard, well almost all the characters in general get owned hard.
it would have been a mercy if someone had seriously just dropped a nuke on westeros and just killed everyone and got it over with.
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It's refereshing that the good guys get their share of shit too... a lot. It's isn't a simple good vs bad and good wins, it's way more complicated.
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Gray is so much better than black and white.
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It's refereshing that the good guys get their share of shit too... a lot. It's isn't a simple good vs bad and good wins, it's way more complicated.
Yep. Like lord stark (who is 'good') fucking over the queen and the kid to get the throne. Maybe from his point of view he isnt, but to them he is, since theyve been planning for him to be king for a long time. to be traditionally 'good' in this world wouldnt work very often i think, you would just be a servant or something forever.
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It's refereshing that the good guys get their share of shit too... a lot. It's isn't a simple good vs bad and good wins, it's way more complicated.
Yep. Like lord stark (who is 'good') fucking over the queen and the kid to get the throne. Maybe from his point of view he isnt, but to them he is, since theyve been planning for him to be king for a long time. to be traditionally 'good' in this world wouldnt work very often i think, you would just be a servant or something forever.
im pretty sure that cuckolding the King would be treason and well.. the little brat is not the rightful heir.
He was going to give the throne to Stannis, the brother of Robert and his next of kin.
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Man this show is fucking awesome. They telegraphed the cliffhanger ending a bit though with the scene in the brothel.
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Listening to the audio book in between episodes. So fucking good!
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ooohhh, nooo, don't tempt me pls!
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Listening to the audio book in between episodes. So fucking good!
Jea i started listening too... but i can't go much further now, don't want to spoil the next EP :)
10 hours or so to go ? Bring it !
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Listening to the audio book in between episodes. So fucking good!
how is the audio book? is it good voice and everything? ive never really used audio books
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Listening to the audio book in between episodes. So fucking good!
how is the audio book? is it good voice and everything? ive never really used audio books
I can only speak for the first audiobook - the narration is very good and the reader does a perfect job of immitating the different characters voices. Go for it.
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just got the 4 book box set from amazon for 20€...should keep me entertained for a while.
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Listening to the audio book in between episodes. So fucking good!
how is the audio book? is it good voice and everything? ive never really used audio books
I prefer audiobooks over reading nowadays since you can do it while driving, jogging etc..
I've been listening to it a couple of hours per day for a week now and still am just into where the 4'th episode takes place. In other words, there is so much more content for each scene, as would be expected. It does take a little longer than reading would, because of the pace of the narration but the old guy who does the narrating has an old, raspy voice that really goes well with the story.
Having watched the TV series is a nice bonus since you can put a face to the characters he describes. They really did a nice job with the casting in the series.
The author is awesome, you will notice how so much of the dialogue in the series is taken directly from the book.
If you love this show, don't hesitate for a second to grab the audiobook. Trust me on this.
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Great fucking show, just started watching it, first 5 episodes are awesome.
The acting is quite good, the main characters are very interesting, it has it all, violence, sex, drama, and even some comedy. All sides of the story so far are very interesting, and you never get bored throughout the episode, no dull moments or fillers.
the best character: the imp. love his acting.
and I love, love the scenery, it is just beautifully shot, an HD version is a must have, regular doesn't cut it anymore.
I especially love the ending of each episode, makes you either go wow, laugh, or just want to know what will happen next.
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the best character: the imp. love his acting.
This I have to agree with.
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Great fucking show, just started watching it, first 5 episodes are awesome.
the best character: the imp. love his acting.
and I love, love the scenery, it is just beautifully shot, an HD version is a must have, regular doesn't cut it anymore.
Totally agree, he's a superb actor and really lives and breathes his role as the wise and street smart dwarf who uses cunning and wit to manipulate the people around him.
Kind of reminds me of his (uncredited) role in "In Bruges"
This show has so many details in everything it does, it just never breaks character. The house leader skinning a deer as he speaks is just an example of making a dialog seem so much much more authentic.
The lingering realistic sex and gore scenes manage to seem fitting and add to the atmosphere instead of just providing shock value.
The child actors are stunningly believable, something that usually fails and puts me off, ruining a show for me.
Up there with the greats such as Six feet under, Breaking bad and Arrested development.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the child actors before Phero, my apologies if someone has. They are terrific.
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Unexpected turn of events, death magic and killing of horses.. seems a lot of them are killed in this series. And i miss the dancing master, did he die??
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Unexpected turn of events, death magic and killing of horses.. seems a lot of them are killed in this series. And i miss the dancing master, did he die??
Obviously
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wow, certainly didn´t expect that to happen. and just 1 ep left in season1...wish it had 13
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Syrio could've escaped, his fate is not sealed in the books if I remember correctly.
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Unexpected turn of events, death magic and killing of horses.. seems a lot of them are killed in this series. And i miss the dancing master, did he die??
Obviously
Or... "Not today".
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Grim stuff. I mean I can't believe it, one of the best shows I have ever seen
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I really didn't expect what happened in the end.
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I really didn't expect what happened in the end.
And that's GOOD. Fuck the regular immortal cast members in every other show. This is the real deal and it's harsh.
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Fuckin love this show. Can't wait till next sunday.
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im curios to see how zombo droga turns out!
also:
TO BATTLE! *bump*
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They've already decided to film the second book. I hope they also film the third one, because it offers some closure. You'll see why next week. The first book ends with a massive cliffhanger. Book 2 is great, but book 3 is the cream of the crop. The story gets even better, much better.
Minor spoilers...
By the way, the dragon-lady's adventures (Dany the mongol-lover) always annoyed me, because they happen in a separate vacuum that barely affects events on Westeros, where most of the characters act. At the end of book 4 Dany is still doing her thing on the other side of the ocean. In effect we have two unrelated stories (three if you count events at the Wall) that are supposed to converge in the last 2 books.
Next book of the series (#5) is coming out in July. It will be the second longest after #3. Georgie boy has spent a decade on tomes 4 and 5. Book should deliver. I hope the fucker doesn't die on us the way Freemason Robert Jordan did.
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You guys will love the next episode.
Someone should delete the post above mine if the retarded cunt can't find it in him to remove the spoilers.
This shit is worty of a ban imo.
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Fuckin love this show. Can't wait till next sunday.
Don't be so hasty. We'll have to wait another year after next sunday's episode.
I guess I won't resist and read the second book for the first time. I've read the first one 10 years ago and avoided to read more, because:
1- I don't re-read books, so with the waiting between books I would forget lots of details.
2- He might pull a Jordan on us.
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Yea, I think I may just give in and start reading the books. I don't honestly want to, simply because I haven't watched a show with a decent story line in years. If I read the books, something will inevitably be left out, altered or embellished in the show, and may sour the entire appeal.
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hasn't been the case for me thus far. (finishes the (audio) book yesterday)
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Reading the books will make you better understand and appreciate the events in the show. The show only follows the big picture really. On the other hand, you will be spoiled and watching the show might not be as tense anymore.
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Is the first book just season one? In that case, I might pick it up and read without spoiling myself for future seasons.
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Is the first book just season one? In that case, I might pick it up and read without spoiling myself for future seasons.
Yes. You can read it without spoiling season 2 (although this season had a couple scenes/dialogues from the other books, I don't know why).
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The events in the books are not always chronological, that might be it.
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http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b247126_game_of_thrones_sean_bean_stabbed_in.html?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=imdb_topstories
Poor guy. Can't seem to have any luck around sharp metal objects.
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http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b247126_game_of_thrones_sean_bean_stabbed_in.html?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=imdb_topstories
Poor guy. Can't seem to have any luck around sharp metal objects.
lol he refused medical attention and went back for another drink after. the guys fucking awesome
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Oh good, it was just a cut from broken glass. No need for blood magic. :D
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and I love, love the scenery, it is just beautifully shot, an HD version is a must have, regular doesn't cut it anymore.
Yep, GOT is the serie that made me download mkv instead of the regular xvids.
I stayed away from mkv's because my Xbox360 couldn't play them, but now I found PS3 Media Server (how ironic) which plays my mkv's (720p) on my Xbox360. No more xvids for me now.
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Wait, what? PS3 media server? What the hell is that. I also either have to find an MP4 or I get the Xvid version. How in the world are you playing MKV's on the 360?[/url]
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Wait, what? PS3 media server? What the hell is that. I also either have to find an MP4 or I get the Xvid version. How in the world are you playing MKV's on the 360?[/url]
PS3 Media Server (It's Free) can steam the video straight to your 360 and converts the audio (typically AC3) to AAC in real time so that the 360 can play it back. It works quite well, but you need a PC on to use it.
An other option is to simply use a converter to convert the audio from AC3 to AAC and remux the file into an mp4, probably take 5 mins in total for a TV show.
In both cases you get a slight loss in audio quality but video quality will remain 100% identical to the MKV.
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Well would you believe it Toytown. I sold my PC yesterday, because I was hardly ever using it as I am using my girlfriends iMac to browse the web. Heck, I am using it to type this message! <shrugs>
Any such an option for the Macintosh? I used Connect360 for a time but streaming did not always work well and it couldn't handle MKV.
Also: Digger sends his love.
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http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/
...there´s a version for macos as well.
back to GoT:
anxiously looking forward to the finale, after finishing the book(wanted to stop after i got to the end of ep9 with the book, but just couldn´t put it down :) ).
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ps3mediaserver + ps3 = awesome, i can watch almost anything
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PC + audio cable and component video cable = awesome, i can watch absolutely everything
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I'm two thirds done with the first book, and I have to admit, the screen adaptation did it justice. I can see the major events have not changed much in fact, and that had me pleasantly surprised. I hope this goes on for the remainder of the series.
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The TV show is about as accurate as can be within the medium. The audio book is 34hrs long (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Publication_history), so a video translation can accomplish a lot in 10 hours, especially since images supplant lengthy descriptions of scenery and dresses, and the acting takes care of the psychological commentary.
Good books, good show, good job all round.
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The tv adaptation is great, but now that I have started to read the book, I do find some (small) changes that make a big difference on how the characters are percieved by the reader/viewer. I feel that they made the characters a tad more black/white while they are more complex in the books. But of course, books always have more complexity in that area than movie/tv adaptations.
For example, when Jaime pushes Bran out the window in the first episode. In the tv series, it's Cersei who pushes Jaime to act; "he has SEEN us!!", like "DO something". While in the book, Cersei doesn't say anything and Jaime acts all on his own. That makes a huge difference, lol. Maybe they wanted to make Cersei more evil, and Jaime a bit less in the tv show for things to come in the next season(s)...
Another example is Dany's first night with Drogo. In the tv series, she is pretty much raped, while in the book it is very much consensual (although Drogo had to 'soften' her up a bit first, the dog :lol: ).
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Season 2 in Spring 2012. The wait. :(
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Fuck me, i had goosebumps during that last scene. Nice titis too.
I'm gonna buy the books. Best series ever.
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Seriously I can't wait that fucking long.
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Yeah, there was some jerk potential. Too bad my girlfriend watches this with me.
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funny fan reaction, spoiler to episode 9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owf6D2vfZqM
"They killed my nigga!"
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Fuck me, i had goosebumps during that last scene. Nice titis too.
I'm gonna buy the books. Best series ever.
how did you guys react overall as a person who had not read the books?
i was wondering , since i've read the books and knew what was coming, was it as unbelievably awesome for newbies too?
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Fuck me, i had goosebumps during that last scene. Nice titis too.
I'm gonna buy the books. Best series ever.
how did you guys react overall as a person who had not read the books?
It was great. The entire season has been great. Awesome television and I"m sure that if any other studio other than HBO had picked it up, there's no fucking way it would have been this good. The worst part now is the wait for the next season.
And that fan reaction video is hilarious! Hahaha!
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was it as unbelievably awesome for newbies too?
It was. Easily the best Tv show in ages.. it's like everything is made to fit and done with precision/care. The characters, story and atmosphere not to mention the drama are all top notch.
I just can't get enough of this show.
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was it as unbelievably awesome for newbies too?
It was. Easily the best Tv show in ages.. it's like everything is made to fit and done with precision/care. The characters, story and atmosphere not to mention the drama are all top notch.
I just can't get enough of this show.
Agreed. As someone else who never heard of this, this show was fucking awesome. Great television here. Another winner from HBO.
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omfg shes the dragon
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I have to say, I finished the first book and although the show was very good, it lost quite a bit of the wow factor. Think I will hold off on reading the second for a bit, too nice of a show.
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The final scene was good, but the audiobook version..man...i had goosebumps non stop for 2 minutes going "woooooooow" every now and then until my gf started shaking my arm telling me that im nuts.
Trust me, theres no need to wait for the next season, you'll be spoiling the books if you do. See the show as nice little bonus, the real treasure is the books.
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Audiobooks, ROFL you guys are funny as fuck
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Audiobooks, ROFL you guys are funny as fuck
First newsgroups now audiobooks. Wtf are you guys smoking/snorting/injecting and where can i get some?
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So get the audiobook from a newsgroup? :D
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I ain't bashing on audiobooks, but i'll go for the real thing this time.. books made from paper.
This series reek of genuine quality, i support that.
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So get the audiobook from a newsgroup? :D
I already have done just that. I don't see whats so funny about newsgroups and audiobooks though.
Is it "cooler" somehow to read the book than listening to it?
Besides, you dont want to miss out on Roy Dotrice's awesome voice acting.
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So get the audiobook from a newsgroup? :D
I already have done just that. I don't see whats so funny about newsgroups and audiobooks though.
Is it "cooler" somehow to read the book than listening to it?
Besides, you dont want to miss out on Roy Dotrice's awesome voice acting.
Just joking dude :D
I've never experienced an audio book but I have nothing against them and I used to leech from newsgroups but lately I found top torrent sites more practical and cheaper.
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We Require More Episodes :/
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So get the audiobook from a newsgroup? :D
I already have done just that. I don't see whats so funny about newsgroups and audiobooks though.
Is it "cooler" somehow to read the book than listening to it?
By listening to an audiobook rather than reading the real book you are showing lack of intellectual prowess and focus, and you lose the essence and charm of books, the way they were written and meant to be read.
Similarly by downloading from usenet you are showing a lack of eliteness and become a new school kid who can't get access and aren't really a part of the scene.
YOU KNOW THIS AND REVEL IN IT just like all the torrent kids who talk smack about the scene.
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I caved in and bought the 4 books. Since I've already seen the first season, is it worth it to read the first book? I know there will be little details in the book that wouldn't have translated over into the TV show, but are there any glaring omissions on the show that make reading the first book absolutely necessary?
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What you see in the show is roughly 20-30% of teh book. All the major stuf is in the show, but you miss a lot of details. The actions of many of the characters will make more sense when you read the book.
As for being "absolutely necessary", a book of such quality is always that.
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yeah you need to read the first one, you will appreciate the subsequent ones much more if you actually read it.
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Lol will all of you fuckers calm the fuck down, you all sound like retards who are reading books for the first time in their life.
rofl at you noobs
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A good one.
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the imp got the emmy for best supporting actor in a drama, well deserved!
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A small behind-the-scenes video of Season 2 that HBO released during Boardwalk Empire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gGpXIJmISno
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http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6579356/game-of-thrones-rpg
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http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6579356/game-of-thrones-rpg
Awesome. :D
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i just started watching this show like last night, i watched like 2-3 episodes before i fell asleep.
fucking epic!
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I watched the first scene and wasnt happy. Where the fuck were those mysterious knights and their ultra thin swords, with their icicle voices? It wasnt the dead that came back to life, it was Royce after he got slaughtered by the knights.
damn nigga way to spoil it...i guess i WON't be rereading this thread from page one...
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Season 2 starts April 1.
Should be ever better. The third book was the best. After that Martin lost the plot. Maybe we'll see if he recovers it, by about 2020.
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damn nigga way to spoil it...i guess i WON't be rereading this thread from page one...
talking about the first 5 mins of a show makes it a spoiler? really?
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Game.of.Thrones.S2E00.You.Win.or.You.Die.720p.WEB.DL.H264-P2P
22 mins hype-builder.
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damn nigga way to spoil it...i guess i WON't be rereading this thread from page one...
talking about the first 5 mins of a show makes it a spoiler? really?
when you reveal shit from later on in the series...yes it's called a spoiler.
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The first scene in the book compared to the show were different, that's what i was referring to. I didn't reveal shit about anything past what happens in the intro. The name Royce isnt even mentioned in the show.
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ho boy ho boy ho boy
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Lol will all of you fuckers calm the fuck down, you all sound like retards who are reading books for the first time in their life.
rofl at you noobs
tldr
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Lol will all of you fuckers calm the fuck down, you all sound like retards who are reading books for the first time in their life.
rofl at you noobs
tldr
way to ressurect a year old argument you foreigner fucktard
why dont u go and listen to an audio book of my farts
fucking noob ass fuck retarded son of a dick
fuck ass
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Don't crop up all that frustration, let it go!
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lol umad
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You have an audio book of your farts?
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You have an audio book of your farts?
Maybe I should then you brain dead morons would listen to it.
Or perhaps you'd be ready to take the big step and actually read it like normal non retarded person do.
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Eh, Joffrey is that annoying kid from Batman Begins...
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Still a brilliant show, continuing on from the first season. But it does make me glad that I've read Book 2 before watching it, since a lot of the backstory gets lost when they have to cram an entire book into one season. There was no inkling of who Melisandre (or The Red Woman), Balon Greyjoy or Craster were. Still a great show though.
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In case no one noticed: Game.of.Thrones.S02E01.HDTV.x264-ASAP
:)
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In case no one noticed: Game.of.Thrones.S02E01.HDTV.x264-ASAP
:)
This DEMANDS to be watched in HD :D
Game.of.Thrones.S02E01.720p.HDTV.x264-IMMERSE
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Goosebumps!!
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Can't wait to watch it when I get home today.
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I was planning to wait until I finished reading the book, but I'm about to start watching it with my wife. We can't resist.
I should finish reading it before the TV series spoils it. The TV take on the GRRM's work is great, but still far from its depth in the books.
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Game.Of.Thrones.S02E02.720p.WEBRip.XviD-REFiLL
Game.of.Thrones.S02E02.720p.WEB-RIP.x264
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Wow that redhead has some nice tits. That's pretty much what I took away from episode 2.
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I can't understand these brothel monologues of Littlefinger with Ros. It's not in the books, it doesn't add anything and it's a waste of time that should be used for other scenes or characters that were cut or shortened.
That fuck scene wasn't in the book and I doubt it happened, at least at that point in the timeline.
Craster sacrificing the baby when the men in black were camped there isn't in the book and it's a stupid move. More time wasted. And in the next episode, more time will be wasted to continue this mini story arc.
Some scenes are falling flat, due to no proper introduction and time. Yet, they keep wasting time with these stupid things.
There are many other changes, although understandable (like making Joffrey responsible for the bastards' massacre instead of Cercei, so that TV viewers won't be turned off of her later).
On the other hand, everything looks magnificent. The locations, wardrobe, etc. The wigs are a little bit better. The series continues interesting anyway.
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Wow that redhead has some nice tits. That's pretty much what I took away from episode 2.
Aren't those tits 16 years old?
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Craster sacrificing the baby when the men in black were camped there isn't in the book and it's a stupid move. More time wasted. And in the next episode, more time will be wasted to continue this mini story arc.
Yeah wtf was that about?
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Both episodes have been legitimately shitty
partly because I cant remember who the fuck are most of the character i mean ffs
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Wow that redhead has some nice tits. That's pretty much what I took away from episode 2.
Aren't those tits 16 years old?
I think he's talking about Melisandre ;)
The actrice isn't shy of some 'artistic nudity', so we might see more of her later (can't wait for the 'birth'-scene :lol: ).
Check out the movie Black Book, a great Dutch war movie by Paul Verhoeven, in which she gets naked a lot ;)
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I can't understand these brothel monologues of Littlefinger with Ros. It's not in the books, it doesn't add anything and it's a waste of time that should be used for other scenes or characters that were cut or shortened.
That fuck scene wasn't in the book and I doubt it happened, at least at that point in the timeline.
Craster sacrificing the baby when the men in black were camped there isn't in the book and it's a stupid move. More time wasted. And in the next episode, more time will be wasted to continue this mini story arc.
Some scenes are falling flat, due to no proper introduction and time. Yet, they keep wasting time with these stupid things.
There are many other changes, although understandable (like making Joffrey responsible for the bastards' massacre instead of Cercei, so that TV viewers won't be turned off of her later).
On the other hand, everything looks magnificent. The locations, wardrobe, etc. The wigs are a little bit better. The series continues interesting anyway.
I'm feeling pretty much the same. All this wasted time could've been used to introduce Stannis, Melisandre and Davos better (like the intro of the book).
I'm guessing the whore parts will play a part later (storyline with Tyrion and Shae, and the redhead whore replacing the one from the book).
But still, there's plenty of awesome material from the books to draw from, so I'm disappointed they choose to add more sex/nudity scenes instead. We have Spartacus and internet porn for that.
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Hit this up the other day, season 1. Will do the honours after Dexter.
Is Nikita worth watching?
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Like every other mug under the sun after watching the first season I rushed out to read all the books available in the series...
Really wish I hadn't. I've now got such high expectations for the show it'll never be able to deliver. And judging by that first episode of the second season it's not looking good.
Agree with the comments about the whorehouse scene, there's so many other parts of the story that need to be told. I don't understand how people that haven't read the books are able to follow what's going on for the most part.
Hopefully it'll get better, there should be some great scenes this season, and in the next. And I can only hope they make the 4th and 5th seasons better than the books because they were utter, utter shite compared to the first 3.
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Hit this up the other day, season 1. Will do the honours after Dexter.
Is Nikita worth watching?
i love nikita, but i watched the original show La femme nikita so i'm a hardcore fan. its really just a fun covert ops soap opera but its worth a watch
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Hit this up the other day, season 1. Will do the honours after Dexter.
Is Nikita worth watching?
i love nikita, but i watched the original show La femme nikita so i'm a hardcore fan. its really just a fun covert ops soap opera but its worth a watch
Same here! I watched La Femme Nikita (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118379/) and now I can't watch any other Nikita series. The movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100263/) was great too.
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Are those WebDL videos of Episode 2 glitchy/jerky? Am I better off waiting for the HDTV rips this Sunday?
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Are those WebDL videos of Episode 2 glitchy/jerky? Am I better off waiting for the HDTV rips this Sunday?
I got a x264 webrip and it was decent quality, not jerky enough to not be watchable but that was on tuesday. You only have 2 days to wait now so I would say definitely wait.
Also cool that there's other LFN fans here, I loved it back then and recently got all the dvdrips to watch again. I like the new Nikita but it's not as good IMO.
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Are those WebDL videos of Episode 2 glitchy/jerky? Am I better off waiting for the HDTV rips this Sunday?
It's not HD, but you can't tell the difference from the normal episode rips. I was surprised at the quality as well.
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Are those WebDL videos of Episode 2 glitchy/jerky? Am I better off waiting for the HDTV rips this Sunday?
It's not HD, but you can't tell the difference from the normal episode rips. I was surprised at the quality as well.
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I think this is 720p
Game of Thrones s02e02 720p WebRip-x264 mp4
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Craster sacrificing the baby when the men in black were camped there isn't in the book and it's a stupid move. More time wasted. And in the next episode, more time will be wasted to continue this mini story arc.
They need to do this to introduce new characters and concepts into the show since time is always a factor. They did this in the previous season too; the scenes of Tywin Lannister skinning the deer and the boy sucking on his mom's titties at the Eyrie were not present in the books but they had to put them in to give an impactful introduction to the characters. It's the same with this, it's better to show the baby sacrifice and give a glimpse of the White Walkers now rather than cut to Craster's Keep later in the season when the context is gone.
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We already saw the Others in the very first episode. It takes until book 3 until they appear again. So no need for it now.
They could have just mentioned the baby killing in a dialogue, pretty much like in the book, and get on with the story.
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We already saw the Others in the very first episode. It takes until book 3 until they appear again. So no need for it now.
They could have just mentioned the baby killing in a dialogue, pretty much like in the book, and get on with the story.
yeah but viewers will forget by then. i agree they should stretch certain things out and condense others to make it flow, they are doing a good job so far.
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The story in episode 3 was so much better in the book :(
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I read book 2 years ago and can't remember too much so I don't notice if the series are different.
All that matters to me is that each week I'm looking forward to the next episode. It's simply the best series at the moment.
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The story in episode 3 was so much better in the book :(
Yep more detailed in book. But it will work just fine for the people who has not read the book yet, i guess...
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Craster sacrificing the baby when the men in black were camped there isn't in the book and it's a stupid move. More time wasted. And in the next episode, more time will be wasted to continue this mini story arc.
They need to do this to introduce new characters and concepts into the show since time is always a factor. They did this in the previous season too; the scenes of Tywin Lannister skinning the deer and the boy sucking on his mom's titties at the Eyrie were not present in the books but they had to put them in to give an impactful introduction to the characters. It's the same with this, it's better to show the baby sacrifice and give a glimpse of the White Walkers now rather than cut to Craster's Keep later in the season when the context is gone.
Actually, time is the last factor in this case, since the books arent even finished. And the context is never gone when you have short "previously on" recaps at the beginning of each episode. What else you got, fool?
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They should also have used the proper ritual (aka drowning) for the drowned god, so people get a glimpse into their religion.
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They should also have used the proper ritual (aka drowning) for the drowned god, so people get a glimpse into their religion.
Not sure i read Theon being part of the ritual. I remember reading more details about it in 'A Feast for the crows' book, which is way ahead of the series.
Maybe they will show the ritual when they get there....
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The book doesnt specify wether or not theon did the "lite" version of the ritual, but choosing to show that in the last episode would have given an insight into the harsh mentality of the Ironmen and explained the phrase "what is dead can never die" etc...
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Yes looks like they are mixing up lots of stuff, i find the series 'fast' when i watch it.
I enjoy reading it more than watching it, though series is excellent made.
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They changed the characters too much, season 1 ned stark by sean bean was the best we will probably get as far as a character being played perfectly like the books, ah well. Anyway I think its good to be able to watch scenes not written into the books and be suprised by whats happening, even if it seems stupid and not fitting to the characters we imagine our book minds.
Seems they write a lof of sex and nudity in to satisfy some quota they seem to need to fulfill though.
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The changes pile up, making this a mess for a book reader. I guess we just have to turn off our thoughts about the book to be able to enjoy this.
Not so easy, having just finished to read the book.
And who's Talisa and where will this be going? hum...
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That Joffrey is one sick cunt.
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You should have kept your dirty little hands off the books, whiners.
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That Joffrey is one sick cunt.
They're making him worse in the TV series. I guess TV demands a little bit less of gray and more white and black characters.
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Any deviation from the books annoy the shit out of me because they clearly try to appeal to the general retard.
"He's so evil he makes them fuck with pointy dildos!"
Come on! You can't outdo the crossbow ya nubs, no matter how much cunt you show!
And the whole standoff by the gates of Qarth just..oh man. Just listen to the dialogue from that scene again. So fucking bad.
And who the fuck was the hippie bitch spewing moral nonsense on the battlefield? WTF MAN
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Spoiler:
She was future Robb's wife, Jeyne. Suppose she pops out of nowhere in the book, so they did a small introduction in the series.
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No its not, its some made up chick called Talisa from Volantos, thats why she is a half black, sorry for anyone who has to click spoiler to show and understand my comment.
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As someone who did not read the books I thoroughly enjoyed the last two episodes. My only problem really was with Geoffry's scene which showed him explicitly as an evil character, and now people say it is not like that in the book, which kind of suck really, because they are deciding for the viewers who to like and who to hate instead of letting them decide for themselves.
And the no-dragons scene? I kind of thought she was trying to protect them (even though looking at them is retarded) rather than trying to save money for the show, since they are too young and facing 13 armed people who would easily steal them from her...
Anyway good series so far! I just hope they don't get into budget problems and then try to cut more and more CGI/heavy staff scenes... (Like the war at the beginning of E4)
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Not sure how they are planning to tell the story in the series, but there is lot more to cover before you can actually see the dragons, i am reading the fifth book now and there are only few instances with dragons.
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And the no-dragons scene? I kind of thought she was trying to protect them (even though looking at them is retarded) rather than trying to save money for the show, since they are too young and facing 13 armed people who would easily steal them from her...
yes, exactly. she knows they are the most valuable, unique thing in the world and she is trying to protect them, as people can and will try to steal them. they are also to young to fight and could easily be killed
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http://i49.tinypic.com/oaxeed.jpg
:D
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:lol:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pAAztk3Zcc
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They showed the dragons in the last episode. I'm not sure if it's my shitty monitor or not, but it was the most realistic looking CGI I've ever seen.
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im liking this second season so far, finally they are getting to the magical shit like dragons and shadow monsters and demons and spells and white walkers and wildlings. this is turning into my new crack.
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loving this show, the episodes need to be leaked early oh pls.
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The TV series has almost completely mutated, and not for the best. There are so many changes, aditions and omissions that it's becoming a mess. And some changes are stupid or make some characters look stupid.
On the other hand, it keeps things freshers for those who already read the book.
It's still a very good show, but I think it could have been better. Changes, yes. Stupid ones, no.
Still, one of the best TV shows right now.
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I don't remember Daenerys' dragons being kidnapped in the book. Am I mistaken or was it actually present? If someone knows, can you post what I've forgotten please? Preferably in a spoiler-friendly way for the benefit of those that haven't read the books.
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There's nothing fresh about it. It's fucking stupid.
Daeny's main trait is that she's incredibly protective of her dragons, they've turned her into a fool to make things more "exciting".
She was desperate in the books, but not a fool.
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Sorry I haven't read the books and I don't plan to, so they might be butchering this legacy for all I know.
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They have to change the story, unlike Martin they don't have all the time in the world. At the rate Martin is writing, the story will take atleast a decade to finish.
I agree with the last scene though, Daenerys is extremely protective of her dragons. This was totally out of character. I hope they don't turn the character into a crying stupid bimbo in the show.
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they killed her riders and the entire household, its not like she left the dragons alone.
what is she supposed to do, stay with them 24 hours a day? bring them with everywhere? it makes sense she would leave them time to time
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More stupid things:
Since they've made Arya the cupbearer of Tywin, must we believe that it wouldn't cross her mind to kill him (through Jaqen)? Or to kill the guy who stole her sword needle?
Why make the Halfhand tell Jon to kill the wildling? He told Jon to do what must be done. When Jon returns and confesses he didn't kill her, Qhorin says that he did what had to be done. That act might define the man in front of him and bla bla bla. Why this subtle change?
Jon get's lost? So easily? Ok, I didn't read the third book but I guess this widling will be a love interest for Jon, so they decided to speed up things here, but... Why make Jon dumb?
Why this scene of dragon theft? What does this add or resumes? It was just to make a cliffhanger for this episode? The black dragon helped her in the House of the Undying. I guess that won't happens in the TV series. Maybe there won't be a trial at all.
Why make Osha sleep with Theon? If they decided to do that, then it's dumb of Osha not to kill Theon with that great oportunity, but there she goes killing the guard...
I did like the Hound/Robocop scene, though. Although I would have prefered the original scene, on horse with the hand mutilation. I guess I don't mind the changes they've made to Sansa's story. Specially because she's 12 years old in the book and in the TV series clearly not, so some things have to be changed (btw, Joffrey is 13 years old in the book). I guess we won't get the first menstruation scene. :)
The chain links and wildfire were a preparation from Tyrion since the beggining, but the first is not on the TV series and the second they've made it Cercei's idea, I don't know why. I guess the Blackwater battle will have some changes.
And so on...
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Damn, those female Wildlings are some dirty bitches. Wouldn't mind spending an evening with Ygritte and Osha :lol:
As for the dragons, I'd say that weird looking magician dude in Quarth has them. Can't think of any one else really. Unless the black dude had it all planned out so he can bargain with her...
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In the books, did Petyr Baelish have a meeting with Tywin Lannister with Arya present?
I've read the books a long time ago and think I would have remembered if that meeting took place.
The dragon theft was a surprise.
I don't mind surprises as long as they don't fuck up the story too much.
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Arya didn't get anywhere near Tywin. Littlefinger wasn't anywhere near Renly or Tywin.
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The television medium is totally different to the printed medium, and so they have to make some changes. Overall they are being quite faithful to the books. I saw some interview with GRRM and he was happy with the series.
IMO they should have cut out the entire Dany subplot. Or left it off-screen until season 6. In the books, the Westeros and Dany plots only meet tangentially and late in the story. I guess books 6 and 7 might unite the two plots - but does that justify five books/seasons of Mongols, Arabs, and dragons? I say no.
Because of the Dany plot, GRRM's series consists of two essentially different and effectively separate stories. I never got the point of that. On the one hand we have a medieval Europe-type society, with politics and interesting characters and a smattering of magic. On the other hand we have a magical young and attractive princess-in-exile with dragons. The first story is basically a mature piece of historical fiction. The second story is a high-fantasy extravaganza of the most hackneyed type.
Less Dany, more Lannisters and Starks. The Baratheons are all right, too. Wait until you see the fellows who live down south (Dorne), they are also cool. I could live without the Vikings, though. They are annoying.
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First you appraise them for being faithful to the books, then you talk about disregarding half of the story in the books :?
It's clear Martin has some great plans for Daenerys, but the excruciatingly slow pace of books four and five doesn't give that idea yet. Introducing her out of nowhere in the show later on would be just weird.
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The chain links and wildfire were a preparation from Tyrion since the beggining, but the first is not on the TV series and the second they've made it Cercei's idea, I don't know why. I guess the Blackwater battle will have some changes.
And so on...
In the books, the wildfire preparation was Cercei's plan, I believe. But Tyrion perfected it, by lettings the soldiers train with empty flasks first, etc. And stuffing the boats with that stuff.
The chain was all Tyrion.
I understand the changes, they need to keep the pace up (there's only 4 episodes left) and characters and situations are condensed more.
There are already a lot of characters, a lot more than a typical series, and many of the lesser characters die fast too in the books. I think it would only confuse the audience by introducing a dozen new characters and killing them off a couple of episodes later.
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I havent read a single line of the books and so far I think the series is put together very well story wise.
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First you appraise them for being faithful to the books, then you talk about disregarding half of the story in the books :?
It's clear Martin has some great plans for Daenerys, but the excruciatingly slow pace of books four and five doesn't give that idea yet. Introducing her out of nowhere in the show later on would be just weird.
Yeah, I wish he cut Dany from the book in the first place.
But I guess it doesn't matter... Some Mongols, some Dragons, a bisexual princess-whore... Might as well.
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By the way, if you like the GoT books, one other good series is the Wheel of Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time). In some ways WoT is a bit childish, but it does contain a lot of interesting theology and mythology besides copious amounts of grade A melodrama. Unfortunately, the author, Robert Jordan, got lost in his own plot after about book 6 (some say after book 4). He died around book 12. Some other writer is now wrapping up the last book (14?).
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By the way, if you like the GoT books, one other good series is the Wheel of Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time). In some ways WoT is a bit childish, but it does contain a lot of interesting theology and mythology besides copious amounts of grade A melodrama. Unfortunately, the author, Robert Jordan, got lost in his own plot after about book 6 (some say after book 4). He died around book 12. Some other writer is now wrapping up the last book (14?).
Brandon Sanderson wrote the last 3 books (the final book was split in three), the last one will be published next year.
I've only read the first two books. It's not bad, although the feminist nazism can get old really fast.
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I love the Wheel of Time series, waiting for the last book. I still think it would make a great movie or show. Seems like they have made every other fantasy series except WOT into movies or shows.
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Well latest episode, this guy is like Agent Smith from the Matrix (the warlock) why he needs dragons with power like that they really ruined the geek level scaling he could solo the entire GOT universe.
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game of thrones threads are freakin terrible, everyone who read the books is like "Yea ive read the book and in afew eps this and that character will propably die".
stfu, i am watching a show. there needs to be a different thread for people who read the books and those who didnt.
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game of thrones threads are freakin terrible, everyone who read the books is like "Yea ive read the book and in afew eps this and that character will propably die".
stfu, i am watching a show. there needs to be a different thread for people who read the books and those who didnt.
There's not a single spoiler about S2 posted here. The comments about the books are made only after an episode is aired and no details about future events are posted. So remove the sand from your vagina, get your panties in order, and just watch the show.
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Had enough of Theon already. Rob needs to hurry up and pwn him.
And this dragon thing... wut? Couldnt those 2 have just killed all the others and told kaleesi to stay put? Why all the unncessary drama with killing and stealing? I'm baffled but no doubt the books say more.
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There's not a single spoiler about S2 posted here. The comments about the books are made only after an episode is aired and no details about future events are posted. So remove the sand from your vagina, get your panties in order, and just watch the show.
No, the people who have read the books need to stop fucking whining about and pointing out changes. It's called 'General TV Discussion', not 'General Book Discussion'.
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Had enough of Theon already. Rob needs to hurry up and pwn him.
And this dragon thing... wut? Couldnt those 2 have just killed all the others and told kaleesi to stay put? Why all the unncessary drama with killing and stealing? I'm baffled but no doubt the books say more.
The books don't say more because that didn't happen in the books. The director's decided to add things that in the end... Don't add up well.
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There's not a single spoiler about S2 posted here. The comments about the books are made only after an episode is aired and no details about future events are posted. So remove the sand from your vagina, get your panties in order, and just watch the show.
No, the people who have read the books need to stop fucking whining about and pointing out changes. It's called 'General TV Discussion', not 'General Book Discussion'.
Even when comparing the TV series with the books, people are still talking about the TV series. So it's completely on topic.
Now, I understand that those who didn't read the books are afraid of spoilers or are bothered to know that they are missing out something much greater that what they are watching now... But I think people have been careful about spoilers and everyone knows that, generaly, the books are better than their adaptations.
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Damn, I guess I'll have to review my opinion on the changes. While the ones in the previous episodes are acceptable in that it condenses the story and characters, the scene with Jaime and his nephew was completely unnecessary.
Jaime in the books would never kill another Lannister, no way. His story in the next book is so great and well-written, but it's going to be a lot harder in the tv-series to start to like him now.
They could have written this part better, I think. Like Karstark's son trying to kill Jaime and getting killed himself or something. The conclusion is the same, but at least Jaime doesn't become a kinslayer.
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lol i thought they were saying kingslayer.
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Read books four and five, you'll be glad they're changing shit. So many useless shit in two books is unbelievable. I was also a bit sad about all the changes, but now I hope they'll divert form the books and just disregard books four and five altogether.
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lol i thought they were saying kingslayer.
well he is also known as the kingslayer, because he killed the mad king, that is how Robert baratheon took the crown initially.
Jamie was king Aerys Targeryon's "guard" years ago... but he killed his own king (the "mad king") because he was cruel and crazy, not unlike joffrey but worse. That is how the Targeryon family line (Daenerys's ancestors) lost the crown, and Robert took over.
if he kills a relative, though, then he is also a "kin" slayer
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Read books four and five, you'll be glad they're changing shit. So many useless shit in two books is unbelievable. I was also a bit sad about all the changes, but now I hope they'll divert form the books and just disregard books four and five altogether.
I'm almost done with book 3, part 2 (in translated versions it comes in 2 parts), so I wouldn't know what to expect. But my girlfriend is up to speed with the latest book, and she's enjoying them a lot. It's not at all so slow as some claim it to be, she says, and it's not like GRRM 'lost' the story or something.
Guess I'll know soon enough ;) Season 2 of GoT is still great though, and I'm sure it'll all make sense at the end. They can't divert too much from the story after all.
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are there only gonna be 8 episodes this season too? so the next is last episode till next year?
oh wait nm it was 10 ep last season.
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are there only gonna be 8 episodes this season too? so the next is last episode till next year?
oh wait nm it was 10 ep last season.
Last season had 10 episodes, this one has 10 episodes as well.
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But my girlfriend is up to speed with the latest book, and she's enjoying them a lot. It's not at all so slow as some claim it to be, she says, and it's not like GRRM 'lost' the story or something.
He didn't lose the story, he just filled it with useless drivel. I can distil book four to fifty pages, everything else is pretty much irrelevant. Book five I had to stop with halfway because I couldn't take it anymore. Martin is obviously just writing to write now.
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Meh, i dont like these changes. It's too black and white.
mister_s: Fuck off back to nfohump. Bye.
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Did I hurt your feelings on Nfohump? Which one are you? Let's kiss and make up.
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And what exactly qualifies as hurting someones feeling on nfohump? Being told that "you're a meanie"?
I'd never register on that site because i wouldnt last a minute with all the rules they have about not being a complete prick. I was browsing for a fix for some random game when i noticed your gay ass giving people virtual blowjobs, and thought to myself "wait, isnt this guy acting all straight on isonews?".
Besides, i'm immune to feelings. You would know that if you were a true isonewser, you poser!
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I'm a very complicated guy.
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when i noticed your gay ass giving people virtual blowjobs
lolwut?
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last episode was great, is it my imagination or is there less and less joffrey each episode? i think he's gonna die soon. don't ruin it for me with your spoilers from your books with your words.
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I think he might die soon too. Haven't read the books but the character development for Joffrey seems to have dried up, so either he dies soon or he's going to have a huge change of story. I dunno.
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Still going strong but really lacking in nudity these past few episodes.
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judging by what he said last episode about meeting his uncle baratheon at the mud gates. i expect maybe 2 more episodes, or certainly by season finale.
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There are 2 episodes left.
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oh yeah 10 episodes not 12... keep forgetting.
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I feel like this season does not have enough major events happening. First season was filled with many major events that change the nature of the story, while this season had too little.
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The major event of the season is about to happen next episode ;)
I agree though, but the events that were huge in the books (like Theon's betrayal, his capturing of Winterfell or Jamie's escape) all seemed rather trivial in the series. I blame the writing for that, it's been consistently worse than the previous season, such a pity...
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Heh, I didn't knew that the girl playing Arya was actually 15 instead of 10. Which makes her a year younger than the actress playing her sister.
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http://uk.ign.com/wikis/game-of-thrones/Season_2_Differences
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The girl playing Arya does a great fucking job imo. All the child/teen actors do in this show.
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http://uk.ign.com/wikis/game-of-thrones/Season_2_Differences
There's no going around it when you have only 12 ep's to cover all that material
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Way too many significant changes. Wheres Arya's fucking coin for instance? The coin is essential. So is Tyrion losing half his nose fighting on the ship and being dragged underwater by his armor. The battle outside the mud gate in the last episode was a fucking joke in comparison. They should have thought about the nose from the beginning and had a bigger fake nose all along. Fuck these assholes man. Fuck them in their lazy asses for leaving so much cruicial stuff out. It' not like they should be in a hurry considering the books aren't even finished yet.
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Did any of you guys know the hot as fuck actress playing Shae used to be a pornstar?
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1578575944
Looks like she's had a nose job? NSFW video obviously.
As for the episode, awesome, awesome stuff. The pace didn't slow down for one second... and The Hound was an absolute beast throughout. Although I was getting pretty bored with Cersei's mind-numbing stories. I'm not sure if they are purposely trying to make her seem as dull and tedious as possible?
Definitely watching it again tomorrow.
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wow those wild fire explosions looked great.
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So how is this season, didn't start with it.
Worth it?
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It's a good watch for sure. If you've read the books you'll feel as though they're raping the franchise, but if you haven't read them you're in for a treat. Having read the books, I see the series as a sort of distilled version of the books. Makes me glad I read the books.
As for the last episode, my friends who haven't read the books didn't realize that it was Loras Tyrell who came into the room with Tywin Lannister in the last scene, showing that the Tyrell host had joined up with the Lannisters. Just goes to show how easily things can be missed since there are so many characters to keep track of. And yes, I'm pissed that Arya's coin is missing. Wonder if they'll somehow put it into the final episode next week.
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wow those wild fire explosions looked great.
I agree, and a good episode. I honestly clicked this thread expecting a lot of people to be saying the same, but instead they are complaining about inconsistencies with the books. This is one of those cases where I am damn happy I didn't read the books, otherwise I probably too would be nitpicking and not enjoying the show so much.
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Super intense episode, best one thus far. And the fireworks were AWESOME.
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A pleasant change of pace finally in season 2.
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Super intense episode, best one thus far. And the fireworks were AWESOME.
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Did any of you guys know the hot as fuck actress playing Shae used to be a pornstar?
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1578575944
Looks like she's had a nose job? NSFW video obviously.
As for the episode, awesome, awesome stuff. The pace didn't slow down for one second... and The Hound was an absolute beast throughout. Although I was getting pretty bored with Cersei's mind-numbing stories. I'm not sure if they are purposely trying to make her seem as dull and tedious as possible?
Definitely watching it again tomorrow.
Not just her, "Ros the whore" and the chick that sat naked on Bronn's lap in the last episode, too, apparently :)
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Porn doesn't kill your career! It helps to land roles playing other whores.
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I'd like to know how they were "discovered" during casting.
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best news i heard all day.
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The Shae chick has an excellent ass.
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The Shae chick has an excellent ass.
I enjoyed her work thoroughly.
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http://www.youjizz.com/videos/sahara-knite-fucks-on-a-boat-in-public-2182787.html
I believe this is the naked girl on lap from the last ep.
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I like the direction this thread is heading.
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I wonder why they haven't released a Game Of Whores porn spoof?
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Hopefully using the same girls from the real show.
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I wonder why they haven't released a Game Of Whores porn spoof?
Game of bones :D
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Nice finale. Glad the coin made it, as well as the phrase. And the final scene was the prologue of the third book. I remember reading somewhere that they're going to split the third book into 2 seasons, so both Season 3 and 4 will just be the third book. I think those who have already read the third book know exactly where Season 3 will end if that's the case.
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i can't wait a year. im gonna go get the books. great season finale. im glad relux spoiler about the coin didn't ruin it for me. and im glad daenerys finally got some goddamn airtime this season. sheesh.
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Good final ep, kind of a lot going on though, seems a bit crammed. Losing a bit of that epic feel to me with pretty much nothing getting tied up. That queen wanna-be is hot though, should have been king in that universe. Except that she probably betrays me, is hairy as fck down under and then you die horribly somehow.
Really enjoying the assassin character, he does a great job and I'm sure his story is much more detailed in the books. While I enjoy the CGI (the wild fire was superb) the dragons blasting the sorcerer seemed cheap, he is able to shape shift or at least be everywhere at once, but then suddenly not when some pet flame throwers are barfing on him. I'm guessing that too was more fleshed out in the books.
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Good final ep, kind of a lot going on though, seems a bit crammed. Losing a bit of that epic feel to me with pretty much nothing getting tied up. That queen wanna-be is hot though, should have been king in that universe. Except that she probably betrays me, is hairy as fck down under and then you die horribly somehow.
Really enjoying the assassin character, he does a great job and I'm sure his story is much more detailed in the books. While I enjoy the CGI (the wild fire was superb) the dragons blasting the sorcerer seemed cheap, he is able to shape shift or at least be everywhere at once, but then suddenly not when some pet flame throwers are barfing on him. I'm guessing that too was more fleshed out in the books.
I thought that too but I assumed he is more of an illusionist and the dragons can smell the real one.
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Nice finale. Glad the coin made it, as well as the phrase. And the final scene was the prologue of the third book. I remember reading somewhere that they're going to split the third book into 2 seasons, so both Season 3 and 4 will just be the third book. I think those who have already read the third book know exactly where Season 3 will end if that's the case.
Probably, but in the translated versions (that also split the book in 2 parts) that specific event happens in the beginning of the 2nd part ;)
[spoiler]However, if they end the season with the Red Wedding, it'll be 3 seasons in a row that end with the Lannisters striking a massive blow to the Starks. I'm not sure if what effect that'll have on the viewers and the ratings ;)[/spoiler]
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(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3253/20120604202835.jpg)
LET THE READING COMMENCE!
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Why two copies of A Storm of Swords?
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Why two copies of A Storm of Swords?
Because that publisher chose to split the book in two volumes, for a greater profit margin.
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Why two copies of A Storm of Swords?
looks like a 2 part book.
really dude? no one ever taught you how to clean that black shit off your iron?
get some newpaper and stack a few sheets on your ironing board. get some table salt and pour like a half a cup of it on the newspaper.
turn your iron on as high as it goes and rub it over the salt on the newspaper back and forth with a little pressure but not enough to tear the newspaper. a few back and forths will have that iron shiny and new again.
how have you been ironing your clothes all this time? just pray you don't leave a bunch of black melted shit on em?
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no the iron leaves absolutely no marks and doesn't warrant cleaning. it's also not my iron.
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I wonder why they haven't released a Game Of Whores porn spoof?
snl parody
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq6dez_snl-game-of-thrones_shortfilms
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(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3253/20120604202835.jpg)
LET THE READING COMMENCE!
fyi
http://redditgifts.com/gallery/gift/george-r-r-martins-game-thrones-4-book/
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I wonder why they haven't released a Game Of Whores porn spoof?
snl parody
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq6dez_snl-game-of-thrones_shortfilms
Am I the only one who barely notices the nudity in this series?
Seems like most of you are way too sensitive to this shit.
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I wonder why they haven't released a Game Of Whores porn spoof?
snl parody
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq6dez_snl-game-of-thrones_shortfilms
Am I the only one who barely notices the nudity in this series?
Seems like most of you are way too sensitive to this shit.
nah i think it's perfectly appropriate, that's just a funny spoof based on some of society's perspective. but it takes a hell of a lot more than HBO soft nudity to offend me, having been desensitized by the internet.
maybe if they did triple anal creampie bukkake, i'd raise a single eyebrow.
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Still got The Sopranos and Fringe on my to-watch list.
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RS: Some people criticize the "sexposition" on the show - but your books have plenty of sex. Do you ever take heat for that?
Martin: I get letters about that fairly regularly. It's a uniquely American prudishness. You can write the most detailed, vivid description of an ax entering a skull, and nobody will say a word in protest. But if you write a similarly detailed description of a penis entering a vagina, you get letters from people saying they'll never read you again. What the hell? Penises entering vaginas bring a lot more joy into the world than axes entering skulls.
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RS: Some people criticize the "sexposition" on the show - but your books have plenty of sex. Do you ever take heat for that?
Martin: I get letters about that fairly regularly. It's a uniquely American prudishness. You can write the most detailed, vivid description of an ax entering a skull, and nobody will say a word in protest. But if you write a similarly detailed description of a penis entering a vagina, you get letters from people saying they'll never read you again. What the hell? Penises entering vaginas bring a lot more joy into the world than axes entering skulls.
Love this guy
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A little spoiler if you haven't seen last episode yet.
[spoiler]Tv show's Tyrion got lucky.
The book's Tyrion lost his nose and a big chunk of his face. He was supposed to look horrible. Now he just has a badass scar across his face.
Dunno yet why they added the Stark marriage... can't remember it happened in the books. Same goes for the dragons abduction.
[/spoiler]
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There were a lot of changes. And a good chunck of those changes ranged between pointless to complete crap. And I'm not talking about fidelity to the books, I'm talking about changes that made the story and some characters look worse and sometimes incoherent.
I've hated the changes in Jon Snow's story. Daenery's could have been handled much better, but I undestand they couldn't fit everything from the books. But the dragons' capture and the house of undying... Pure shit.
The battle of Blackwater was much better and you could see better Tyrion's strategy bearing its fruits, but I understand the changes and compressing that they had to do and I think it ended looking nice, although I think those who didn't read the books might be confused about the conclusion of the battle and some important characters' role in it. The only thing I didn't like was some non-sense that GRRM wouldn't ever use in his books, like an unrealistic body splitting blow and stuff like that. Sansa's story is properly handled, it had changes but I think they were sensible enough, considering that in the book she's 12 years old and have a childish view of what's happening around her, while the TV actress looks 16 or more years old, wouldn't make sense to make her behave like a 12 year old child.
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episode 9 was written by grrm so it's very possible the body splitting was his idea in the first place
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episode 9 was written by grrm so it's very possible the body splitting was his idea in the first place
I doubt it, as GRRM likes to be "realistic". Just like I doubt it was his idea to not cut Tyrion's nose and a chunk of his face, but the author's, for example. Or the naked whore with Bron. Nah.
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episode 9 was written by grrm so it's very possible the body splitting was his idea in the first place
I doubt it, as GRRM likes to be "realistic". Just like I doubt it was his idea to not cut Tyrion's nose and a chunk of his face, but the author's, for example. Or the naked whore with Bron. Nah.
um... if a 6'7" tall, 260 pound man slices a 4 foot long heavy, steel sword across your midsection with all his might, you will in fact be nearly cut in half.
read some history. the japanese masters who made samurai swords used to test them on stacked corpses. if it didnt cut through at least like 2 or 3 bodies, it was useless and thrown away
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And they would also catch arrows with their teeth.
Fucking retard.
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And they would also catch arrows with their teeth.
Fucking retard.
Actually, I recently saw something on Discovery Channel on katana's and it was mentioned they tested the swords on cadavers, and they did cut them in half. The name of the one testing the sword was also written on the hilt, next to its maker's.
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I doubt those cadavers were wearing armor.
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I doubt those cadavers were wearing armor.
you do know armor wasn't that thick right? an arrow could pierce it.
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Depends what shot the arrow. The english longbow was more or less efective. But one thing is a piercing blow from an arrow that traveled many meters and gained great momentum... Another is a slashing blow with a sword.
Also, the greater the area of contact, the greater the force needed to penetrate the armor. Simple physics.
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Let's talk more physics and realism in a show about dragons breathing fire, it's exciting!
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A little spoiler if you haven't seen last episode yet.
[spoiler]Tv show's Tyrion got lucky.
The book's Tyrion lost his nose and a big chunk of his face. He was supposed to look horrible. Now he just has a badass scar across his face.
Dunno yet why they added the Stark marriage... can't remember it happened in the books. Same goes for the dragons abduction.
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[spoiler]I'm 99% positive they got married in the book as well which leads to some repercussions involving Lord Walder Frey, who was promised that Robb Stark would marry on of his daughters. [/spoiler]
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[spoiler]
The wedding was the reason for the RW in the first place, so yes, it does happen in the books. The whole story behind it is completely different though, and suits Robb's character a lot better than how he's portrayed in the series.
In the books, Robb marries without Catelyn knowing about it, and he doesn't do it more for love than for honor. But he does realise the consequences of it with the Freys.
He was injured and just learned about Winterfell and Bran and Rickon, so when he fell for the girl nursing him, it was more a weakness of the moment thing. Even though he did like her, he married her to save her honor, very much like Ned would have. His honor and always do the "just" thing no matter the consequences, is ultimately his undoing. Hence the "son of his father" dialogue of Walder Frey during the RW. [/spoiler]
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And they would also catch arrows with their teeth.
Fucking retard.
Actually, I recently saw something on Discovery Channel on katana's and it was mentioned they tested the swords on cadavers, and they did cut them in half. The name of the one testing the sword was also written on the hilt, next to its maker's.
well thank god someone was watching discovery channel and could verify my statement.
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Its one thing to cut through the limbs (below the hips) of a rigid corpse placed against a board with a chopping movement (you could even do that with a longsword), and cutting through the midsection of a living moving person wearing armour. Tameshigiri is what you are referring to. It is surrounded with myths. You could place 3 peoples hands on top of eachother and cut though them with a regular cleaver with enough force and a downwards chopping movement, as long as they lie pressed against a hard surface.
Must be one badass cleaver!
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the show has dragons in it ffs, don't worry about the realism.
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Just because we're talking about fantasy, it doesn't mean there must not be authenticity or at least internal coherence.
Unless you're 10 years old, if you watch or read something where rules are made up as you go along, you'll think it's crap and you'll feel cheated.
The more "realism", the more we can identify ourselves with the characters and the created world.
Anyway, GRRM, in his books, likes to be low kwy about magic and likes authenticity. That's how he justifies the kind of sex and rape in the book. That's how he justifies the grittier parts of his books. Betraying that just for the lols in the TV series...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFpkYN-W74
vide0wned.
and this guy isnt even hitting that hard, his swords are small, and the chainmail is not fixed.
imagine if he was using a sharp, heavy, 2 handed greatsword... Take a look at 8 minute 27 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saG6iqTT3rg&feature=related
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We're not talking about piercing chainmail, we're talking about cutting people in half with a slash. Big difference.
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the hound could use Valyrian steel mutherfucker
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I'm not in the habit of disputing what fictional characters can or can't do.
My comment was directed at this priceless gem of a post:
um... if a 6'7" tall, 260 pound man slices a 4 foot long heavy, steel sword across your midsection with all his might, you will in fact be nearly cut in half.
read some history. the japanese masters who made samurai swords used to test them on stacked corpses. if it didnt cut through at least like 2 or 3 bodies, it was useless and thrown away
Oh man. Amazing how so much stupidity can be concentrated into one single post.
I love how watching a clip on discovery equals reading some history for you. Let me translate things into what really happened:
The "masters" were dramatic old farts who cut through rigid limbs, not bodies(sounds more dramatic doesnt it). Depending on limb, you could just as well do it with a properly sharpened greatsword or a poleaxe. The details are crucial here. You can not compare cutting diagonally though the entire torso of a living person armoured in chainmail to cutting though dead tissue against a hard surface. The former simply could not happen. The properties of the dead, rigid flesh however, and the fact that it has no where to go, changes everything. Furthermore, the whole concept of a sword being useless and thrown away is also a part of the illusion that this is something near impossible, and that a sword that manages, is somehow spectacular. When in reality it would be very weird if a katana failed to cut through a stack of dead meat. In the end it's just like most japanese traditions, complete fucking empty bullshit. We're talking about a nation that is obsessed with honor and male potency yet has the lowest fertility rate in the world. It's all AIR.
And because i could do it with a fucking cleaver, you should call me master.
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Well, the thing I saw on Discovery Channel was a guy selling an original wakizashi, from the 16-17th century. It did cut a corpse in half, from the left shoulder all the way across to the right hip. So not just limbs.
It had the markings of the tester (and testresults) next to the markings of the swordsmith, on the hilt.
(The guy sold it for like 3.5k, btw)
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Season 3 starts on 3/31/2013.
Teaser:
Game Of Thrones Season 3: Three-Eyed Raven Tease (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7e_Oo0Bis#ws)
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I'd read somewhere that they were going to split book 3 into two seasons. Has this been confirmed anywhere? Because if not, season 3 is going to have too many things happening.
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I'd read somewhere that they were going to split book 3 into two seasons. Has this been confirmed anywhere? Because if not, season 3 is going to have too many things happening.
It is confirmed. We just don't know where will they split. The RW is likely to happen this season.
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I'd read somewhere that they were going to split book 3 into two seasons. Has this been confirmed anywhere? Because if not, season 3 is going to have too many things happening.
It is confirmed. We just don't know where will they split. The RW is likely to happen this season.
Yeah I assume that's where they'll end it this season then.
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They also said they're telling the story chronologically, regardless in which book it happened. So it's not necessarily a season (or 2 ;) ) per book.
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Season 3 begins tonight yaay!
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I'm gonna have to wait, I just started reading A Storm of Swords, I'll have to finish it first.
Maybe it's better this way. We'll be able to watch the whole season later, without having to wait a week between episodes. :)
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YAAAAAAY
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So Barristan Selmy is a jedi.
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Wow what a weak ass season premiere.
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So they decided to cut Strong Belwas from the story?
I don't understand why they have to keep changing the story, every time a book is made into a movie/tv-show. There is a reason why people liked the book.
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So Barristan Selmy is a jedi.
They're ALL jedis, that's the twist.
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They better hide Arya's boobs well, since she's suppose to look boyish and all.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3452281088/rg2516752896 (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3452281088/rg2516752896)
They'll have to pull off Lindsey Lohan's styled digital breast reduction soon.
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And Sansa is becoming really tall.
That's the difficulty with underage actores in series. They keep growing up.
I guess changing actors would be out of the question. So we have only to turn a blind eye.
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Yeah by the time GRR has finished the last book they'll be 20-ish something and arya will have tits like a dornish tavern wench.
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Don't forget about:
Nathalie Emmanuel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZaQl6o0GUg#ws)
Missandei
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Oh man i would stick my tongue so far up her ass i'd lick her tongue from the inside.
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she seems nice
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Yeah, that's a nice butt.
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http://cdn.hugelol.org/i700/102693.jpg (http://cdn.hugelol.org/i700/102693.jpg)
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http://cdn.hugelol.org/i700/102693.jpg (http://cdn.hugelol.org/i700/102693.jpg)
Very lame. They spent so much time with something not in the books and that have no purpose or value to the series. They could have used those minutes better.
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Well, they change many things... this one was at least funny..
most of their changes are just to make cliffhangers or just to be fillers without any use...
i thought more people would be enraged that they used cutting king slayer's hand as an end scene and not as was in the book..
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Well, they change many things... this one was at least funny..
most of their changes are just to make cliffhangers or just to be fillers without any use...
i thought more people would be enraged that they used cutting king slayer's hand as an end scene and not as was in the book..
Yes that's the reality of television, they need to get those viewers locked in every episode and this is such a good way and proven way to do it
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Holy shit episode 4 was good. Fucking loved it.
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How is Daenerys going to feed that army?
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How is Daenerys going to feed that army?
Dragon poop?
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Roasted Unsullied.
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How is Daenerys going to feed that army?
By turning them into cannibals, who will eat their enemies.
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How is Daenerys going to feed that army?
She just sacked an entire city. She took what is hers with Fire and Blood.
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Yes, but it won't be long until that entire continent finds out about what she's done and her few thousand person army won't seem like anything in comparison...
Also, they'll need to eat food once they start travelling.
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I'm gonna miss that cursing slave trader. He called it as he saw it.
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Yes, but it won't be long until that entire continent finds out about what she's done and her few thousand person army won't seem like anything in comparison...
Also, they'll need to eat food once they start travelling.
An 8000 soldier force was a huge number in medieval times. Not easy to raise an army like that, specially with the logistics of the time. And the unsullied look like supertrained supersoldiers, a simple peasant revolution would be very likely unsuccessful and very bloody.
I guess the food sacked from the city could last a few days. Hunting and gathering might help... But my bet is that the unsullied will have to leave a trail of destruction, having to sack villages and cities on their way (just like in major medieval wars).
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She practically owns the city, she can bring food from there can't she?
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It's not the only slave city in that area, she'll move from one to next, plundering as she goes.
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Gay buttsex, quality tv.
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I heard Ygritte goes full frontal in the last episode so I'm willing to take the bad with the good :D
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Yeah, she reminds me of a chick from my collage. Except she was small as fuck.
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Yeah, she reminds me of a chick from my collage. Except she was small as fuck.
collage: A form of art in which various materials such as photographs and pieces of paper or fabric are arranged and stuck to a backing.
of course she was small as fuck in your collage
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I heard Ygritte goes full frontal in the last episode so I'm willing to take the bad with the good :D
Nope, just them boobs and ass. Not quite full.
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Nah, he means the last episode of this season, not that last scene with "lord's kiss".
btw.
Crack!vid | Game Of Thrones Song Spoof (New) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzP7iOv6TY0#ws)
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oh, my bad... the more the merrier :D
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Best scene so far in this season!
Chaos is a Ladder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG3H9E-B464#ws)
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I'm reading the book and watching the series at the same time (not to compare, but because I didn't manage to read the book in time before the season started and I couldn't resist to watch it). The tv series is getting further away from the source material. Not for the better, by far. But it's still good in it's own merits. I just wish that they didn't spend 10% of the last episode's time with the unecessary torture of Theon's scene. But I guess they had to give something for the actor to act, or he wouldn't appear in this season.
Also, they're making Tyrion too "nice guy", when he's not. He's very flawed. I don't know why they are afraid to not have a clear nice guy for people to root for. Other series had flawed main characters: Sopranos, for example. Yet, people liked and rooted for them.
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Actually, the parts with Theon are from book 5. They're telling the story chronologically, so not necessarily in the order the book tells it.
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Actually, the parts with Theon are from book 5. They're telling the story chronologically, so not necessarily in the order the book tells it.
I wonder what will they make up until GRRM releases the 6th book. I hope they don't keep the torture scenes until season 9.
The 5th books goes into detail about the torture time?
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Actually, the parts with Theon are from book 5. They're telling the story chronologically, so not necessarily in the order the book tells it.
I wonder what will they make up until GRRM releases the 6th book. I hope they don't keep the torture scenes until season 9.
The 5th books goes into detail about the torture time?
Yeah it does. And it's alot worse than what we saw in the tv-show.
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Actually, the parts with Theon are from book 5. They're telling the story chronologically, so not necessarily in the order the book tells it.
I wonder what will they make up until GRRM releases the 6th book. I hope they don't keep the torture scenes until season 9.
The 5th books goes into detail about the torture time?
We still have the second part of book 3 for season 4. There's actually so much going on in part 2 that I'm not sure if they'll be able to fit it all in a single season. And then there's 2 more books to go until GRRM needs to be ready with book 6, so he has at least 3 more years to complete it. Normally, I'd say that's plenty, but it's GRRM of course... :P
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Actually, the parts with Theon are from book 5. They're telling the story chronologically, so not necessarily in the order the book tells it.
I wonder what will they make up until GRRM releases the 6th book. I hope they don't keep the torture scenes until season 9.
The 5th books goes into detail about the torture time?
Yeah it does. And it's alot worse than what we saw in the tv-show.
"this material was never present in the novels. It was implied, of course, but only through recollection and brief snippets of dialogue"
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"this material was never present in the novels. It was implied, of course, but only through recollection and brief snippets of dialogue"
What is your point?
The books told you about what happend to Theon. It dosn't really matter how it was told.
You first asked if the books goes in to detail about the torture. The anwser is Yes.
Alot of way more important scenes have been changed, added and cut. Even the part with Theon is way more brutal in the books.
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Yummy, nice slave girl. Far too little screen time for her.
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Nathalie Emmanuel Bum flash from Misfits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesJwsBkzKQ#ws)
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Repost but... dat ass!
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Well, fuck... that was an episode.
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Based on this btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe)
It was a cool episode but I felt it was all over the place as if trying to tie up tons of loose ends before deadline.
Sucks about the Chaplin girl though, what a sweet ass.
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Thanks for the link :)
I read about the desctruction of the MacDonald-clan when I visited Scotland many years ago, but never made the link to the GoT universe. Interesting stuff!
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I don't remember from the books that Ingrid shot arrows at Jon? Did she? And where's that hooded dead guy who helped Sam and Gilly.
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I don't remember from the books that Ingrid shot arrows at Jon? Did she? And where's that hooded dead guy who helped Sam and Gilly.
The scene with Ingrid was not in the books.
[spoiler]I think the hooded dead guy might show up in the next season guiding Bran north to the crow [/spoiler]
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that sounded almost human, almost.
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Game of Thrones Season 4 Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk)
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Looking good!
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Was kind of underwhelmed by the first EP but I guess we're gonna have to judge next EP instead, supposedly the purple wedding.
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Didn't they say the purple wedding was in a fortnight in the first episode? Not sure if that literally translated to a fortnight for us too but I wouldn't get your hopes up for this coming episode in case..
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They're speeding up Arya's character transformation, I don't know how I feel about that.
A nice episode, overall. But I guess they won't keep their record 6,6M viewers for the second episode.
I didn't like the new Daario. And even less the silly and out of character (for Grey Worm) gamble scene between him and Grey Worm.
Also, I think they're making Shae too obvious. ANd speaking of her, why do they have to change Tyrion to be a goody two shoes? Tyrion not only showed his penis to Sansa, he wouldn't have any problem to go to a brothel. And would be more annoyed with Sansa's behaviour.
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Didn't they say the purple wedding was in a fortnight in the first episode? Not sure if that literally translated to a fortnight for us too but I wouldn't get your hopes up for this coming episode in case..
Seems like it was the purple wedding indeed. A bit underwhelmed I must say.
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So far its an okay start, nothing amazing yet
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Things are getting out of hand. They are realy deviating from the story. Oh well...
By the way, I was looking forward to watch Roose tell his bastard for him to make he rue the day he raped his mother... Nah, D & D chickned out, just as they did with Catherine in season 1.
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Last episode was absolutely brilliant.
Looking forward to the next episode, its gonna be great ;)
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Things are getting out of hand. They are realy deviating from the story. Oh well...
By the way, I was looking forward to watch Roose tell his bastard for him to make he rue the day he raped his mother... Nah, D & D chickned out, just as they did with Catherine in season 1.
how so?
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Things are getting out of hand. They are realy deviating from the story. Oh well...
By the way, I was looking forward to watch Roose tell his bastard for him to make he rue the day he raped his mother... Nah, D & D chickned out, just as they did with Catherine in season 1.
how so?
I've meant Catelyn.
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I'd heard this episode was amazing from all around me. It was good but not amazing.
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I'd heard this episode was amazing from all around me. It was good but not amazing.
Last 6 minutes were good with a gruesome finale. That kinda saved the episode that was average at best by that point.
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Last episode was much better. Although I prefer it that they switch places more often instead of focusing an entire episode on the Night's Watch.
Still, that tracking shot (after John gets down the wall) was awesome, I hope they do more of those in the future!
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Game of Thrones Season 5 Trailer HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZicSa864hkA#ws)
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What the hell is that, some cam version of a trailer?
Here's the normal version.
Game of Thrones Season 5 Trailer [FULL HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDb4sJVK2wU#ws)
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Probably one of the best seasons so far
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I don't watch that shit.