iSONEWS
General => Off-topic Chat => Topic started by: on January 09, 2007, 10:28:02 PM
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At Steve Jobs' keynote at Macworld he revealed the much rumoured iPhone.
Featuring:
- Dimensions of 115 x 61 x 11.5 mm
- 3.5" screen with a resolution of 480 x 320px
- Fully touchscreen and multi touch
- 4GB or 8 GB of storage, no SD cards
- Bluetooth with EDR and A2DP, WiFi that automatically engages when in range(cloud02 note:this ought to be a battery eating bitch), and quadband GSM radio with EDGE
- Runs OS X
- 2 megapixel camera
- 5 hours of battery life for talk or video, 16 hours in music mode with no word on standby time.
The phone will be available in June in the US as a Cingular exclusive for $499 on a two-year contract, 8GB for $599. Followed up by Europe in Q4 of 2007, and 2008 in Asia.
The phone will face a stiff competition in the mobile market, from main manufacturer Nokia, and SonyEricsson and niche manufacturer HTC which phones the iPhone seems like a copy of. HTC already have a lineup of phones that have touchscreen and wifi, with a full keybaord that slides in and out from beneath.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
edit: added battery life
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- Runs OS X
what a waste >_>
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Only applies to Cingular users and people stupid enough to switch to Cingular.
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...the fuck is so wrong with cingular?
anyway, i'll probably buy this
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Damn, the phone looks hella stupid. I was hoping for a nice design to buy. It seems the new generation will all be this PDA stuff
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...the fuck is so wrong with cingular?
anyway, i'll probably buy this
I'd start by looking into the validity of Cingular's little dropped call study they site when they claim that they have the fewest dropped calls. I was on Cingular, and hated it.
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...the fuck is so wrong with cingular?
anyway, i'll probably buy this
I'd start by looking into the validity of Cingular's little dropped call study they site when they claim that they have the fewest dropped calls. I was on Cingular, and hated it.
I've had cingular (or whatever it was called before) for about 7 years. I have never had any problems with them.
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Wow that's a nice phone...but surely you'll be pressing mute or whatever with your cheek during phonecalls? :?
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Wow that's a nice phone...but surely you'll be pressing mute or whatever with your cheek during phonecalls? :?
Apparently it turns off the touchscreen when its close to your face automatically.
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At Steve Jobs' keynote at Macworld he revealed the much rumoured iPhone.
Featuring:
- Dimensions of 115 x 61 x 11.5 mm
- 3.5" screen with a resolution of 480 x 320px
- Fully touchscreen and multi touch
- 4GB or 8 GB of storage, no SD cards
- Bluetooth with EDR and A2DP, WiFi that automatically engages when in range(cloud02 note:this ought to be a battery eating bitch), and quadband GSM radio with EDGE
- Runs OS X
- 2 megapixel camera
- 5 hours of battery life for talk or video, 16 hours in music mode with no word on standby time.
The phone will be available in June in the US as a Cingular exclusive for $499 on a two-year contract, 8GB for $599. Followed up by Europe in Q4 of 2007, and 2008 in Asia.
The phone will face a stiff competition in the mobile market, from main manufacturer Nokia, and SonyEricsson and niche manufacturer HTC which phones the iPhone seems like a copy of. HTC already have a lineup of phones that have touchscreen and wifi, with a full keybaord that slides in and out from beneath.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
edit: added battery life
2 megapixel camera, oh my nokia will have 5 megapixel out by then so would other phones.
Am i guessing that the battery of the phone will be internal and cant be removed ? Did apple not learn ? What about the screen does it crack easily because people will carry this around more than their ipods.
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Puke. You know what, as much as I love gadgets and all, I'm just not into these "do-everything" phones. My phone can play MP3s, but I *never* use it, I'd rather bring my "real" music player.
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It looks ok but I was just reading about how another company owned the name "iPhone" and released a product with that name already. Also, they had bought out a company which released an "iPhone" in '97.
I wonder if Apple bought the rights to it or if something else happened.
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Wow, the UI looks astonishing. Love the multi touch thing to resize photos, and how it flips the display as you flip the phone. Looks incredibly natural to use and a whole bunch of cool stuff.
XIV - Its not 'pda stuff', its just more user friendly than anything you're used to. Having the screen adapt to show only 'buttons' relevant to what you're doing is going to make this the easiest to use mobile device ever.
You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
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Video of the iPhone announcement
http://www.cnettv.com/9710-1_53-25553.html
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I'd probably think about buying it if it didn't run Mac software and it wasn't a phone. (i.e., make me a Windows machine like that kthx)
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
i dont quite see that happening, as the cellphone market is MUCH more cutthroat than the mp3 market.
i see it doing fairly well tho; alot of ipod users trust the apple brandname and will probably get unlocked ones (b/c cingular suck ass).
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Puke. You know what, as much as I love gadgets and all, I'm just not into these "do-everything" phones. My phone can play MP3s, but I *never* use it, I'd rather bring my "real" music player.
I have an mp3 player, but I dont' have to bother having another expensive thing in my pocket when I travel since my phone can play mp3s also.
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If it ran Windows Mobile, then yeah, fuck this shit tho.
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Pretty sweet, but who wants to run OSX?
Meh...considering I'm always at work, driving to or from work, or doing something other than poking at a pda like a dork in my free time, I guess I'll never buy one of these any way.
Might be fun to play with while waiting in line to pay for groceries or getting a haircut though.
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Think I MIGHT just grab one of these when they come down in price, in a few years :)
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gay
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Only applies to Cingular users and people stupid enough to switch to Cingular.
Cingular is perhaps the worst cell phone company.
Finally some competition for the Treo market share. I really would like something other than a treo hanging on my belt.
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...the fuck is so wrong with cingular?
anyway, i'll probably buy this
I'd start by looking into the validity of Cingular's little dropped call study they site when they claim that they have the fewest dropped calls. I was on Cingular, and hated it.
You can't drop calls when you can't get service. I've never understood Cingular's "fewest dropped calls" campaign. Who gives a fuck about a dropped call? I certainly care much more about being able to get service anywhere I want.
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Do Cingular phones use sim cards?
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Meh...considering I'm always at work, driving to or from work, or doing something other than poking at a pda like a dork in my free time, I guess I'll never buy one of these any way.
Might be fun to play with while waiting in line to pay for groceries or getting a haircut though.
That's because you're not the target audience. MP3 players in general are used by people who use public transportation. When you spend 1 hour or more on your way to school/work and then another hour to get back, you HAVE to do something during that time apart from staring at walls. I think that's the most obvious group of people that these guys target, and if you look around, most young people who don't drive a car have some sort of music playing device with them.
When it comes to phones, Apple will have a lot more competition, since others have been around a lot longer, but the iPod was so unbelievably popular that right off the bat they have a huge guaranteed fan base, even if they made an inferior product.
I think they showed that having 1% of the market meant about 10 million phones...so really, even if they do badly percentage-wise, they'll still do well.
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...the fuck is so wrong with cingular?
anyway, i'll probably buy this
they're just one of the most expensive ones with some of the worst coverage, that's all
but all the carriers are pigs with their 2 year contracts and 200 dollar cancellation fees
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I have the Cingular 8525 which is made by HTC. I like the phone, does what I need it to do and more. I finally got rid of the Palm that I had and never used, hopefully this coming semester I start to schedule shit in there. Best part is the wifi, I bought a fucking watch on ebay during my philosophy lecture this past semester, I didn't even need a laptop.
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Do Cingular phones use sim cards?
yes
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The problems I have with this phone:
- it's made by Apple
- it's overpriced
- it has a giant LCD screen which is dead easy to scratch
- very likely no removable battery
- I don't like carrying very expensive things in my pocket day in day out
- Mac OS X
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"]If it ran Windows Mobile, then yeah, fuck this shit tho.
get a phone made by HTC.
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The problems I have with this phone:
- it's made by Apple
- it's overpriced
- it has a giant LCD screen which is dead easy to scratch
- very likely no removable battery
- I don't like carrying very expensive things in my pocket day in day out
- Mac OS X
I agree. Besides, this thing will get dirty in seconds.
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I think these big clunky phones are dumb, not to mention the 2MP camera is already outdated and this phone isn't even out yet. 5 hour battery life and horrible non-upgradeable storage... Fuck that shit, it's too expensive for what you get. And I can see many people hitting their thighs on a table corner and smashing the phones screen in.
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The problems I have with this phone:
- it's made by Apple
- it's overpriced
- it has a giant LCD screen which is dead easy to scratch
- very likely no removable battery
- I don't like carrying very expensive things in my pocket day in day out
- Mac OS X
You ain't lying...this thing is fucking insane, I'm almost surprised they didn't put a hard drive in it.
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
i dont quite see that happening, as the cellphone market is MUCH more cutthroat than the mp3 market.
i see it doing fairly well tho; alot of ipod users trust the apple brandname and will probably get unlocked ones (b/c cingular suck ass).
if it looks as good as it sounds and works, i'm totally going to get one. the most attractive feature is that it has wifi so you can actually surf the internet without having to buy another internet ISP plan from a cell carrier while they ream you in the ass.
also, cingular unlocks any of their phones if you are on their network for 3 months or more.
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It looks ok but I was just reading about how another company owned the name "iPhone" and released a product with that name already. Also, they had bought out a company which released an "iPhone" in '97.
I wonder if Apple bought the rights to it or if something else happened.
Well, Apple got sued.
link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070110/ap_on_hi_te/cisco_apple_8)
Can't belive Apple is trying to get through with this shit, hopefully they'll lose the case badly. Here's the real iPhone (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Promotion_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1165633316758&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper).
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the linksys iPhone looks much nicer than its apple counterpart
at least apple's version has a nice big uncovered touchscreen thats just begging to get smashed/crushed/scratched/stabbed/etc
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Does anyone else think the real iphone looks suspiciously like the windows xp GUI?
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Heh, Cisco is going to nail them. They have alot more cash to throw around than apple does. Also, it's not as if it will hurt Ciscos image either.
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Pretty neat, but its just another gadget that i'm sure I would regret buying shortly after. i am content with my motorola.
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i read somewhere they use a new kind of material for the casing so its less resistant to scratching.
im down to get it, as long as its in a reasonable price range, would 350 be too much? i liked the fluidity of changing menu screens and such.
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i read somewhere they use a new kind of material for the casing so its less resistant to scratching.
im down to get it, as long as its in a reasonable price range, would 350 be too much? i liked the fluidity of changing menu screens and such.
less resistant to scratching?
If this gadget was 300 (the currently 600 version) with contract or 500 without contract, I would buy it.
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Cisco sues Apple for violating their trademark. Cisco owns the trademark "iPhone" through their subsidiary Linksys who has owned the name since 2000.
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And also.. take a look at how much the Apple phone looks like the upcoming LG, which was announced mid December: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/iphone-and-lg-ke850-separated-at-birth
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i want one. but pricetag is to high
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I have a $99 cell with a flashlight built in the top.
I get free incoming calls all the time and free calls after 6pm.
Never needed to change in years.
The flashlight idea was actually useful - I've even used it going through the forest when coming back from a hike at night - what the fuck is up with all of these MP3 phones? I listen to music a lot...I don't want to finish listening and realize I just drained my cell phone's power and now can't call people.
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I have a $99 cell with a flashlight built in the top.
I get free incoming calls all the time and free calls after 6pm.
Never needed to change in years.
The flashlight idea was actually useful - I've even used it going through the forest when coming back from a hike at night - what the fuck is up with all of these MP3 phones? I listen to music a lot...I don't want to finish listening and realize I just drained my cell phone's power and now can't call people.
The music and actual talking on the phone are 2 seperate batteries.
also, youre free incoming calls and calls after 6pm have nothing to do with your cellphone that has the fancy flashlight in it. That would be your service provider.
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I have a $99 cell with a flashlight built in the top.
I get free incoming calls all the time and free calls after 6pm.
Never needed to change in years.
The flashlight idea was actually useful - I've even used it going through the forest when coming back from a hike at night - what the fuck is up with all of these MP3 phones? I listen to music a lot...I don't want to finish listening and realize I just drained my cell phone's power and now can't call people.
The music and actual talking on the phone are 2 seperate batteries.
also, youre free incoming calls and calls after 6pm have nothing to do with your cellphone that has the fancy flashlight in it. That would be your service provider.
Thanks for telling me what I already know! I'm just stating that that's all I really use my phone for. If I need directions I can actually walk up to people and ask!
And 2 batteries for music/phone...my bad, seems like a better idea I suppose. Still, ~5 hours doesn't seem like much. Mine can last for about 2 days.
$99 folks, $99
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I have a $99 cell with a flashlight built in the top.
I get free incoming calls all the time and free calls after 6pm.
Never needed to change in years.
The flashlight idea was actually useful - I've even used it going through the forest when coming back from a hike at night - what the fuck is up with all of these MP3 phones? I listen to music a lot...I don't want to finish listening and realize I just drained my cell phone's power and now can't call people.
The music and actual talking on the phone are 2 seperate batteries.
also, youre free incoming calls and calls after 6pm have nothing to do with your cellphone that has the fancy flashlight in it. That would be your service provider.
Thanks for telling me what I already know! I'm just stating that that's all I really use my phone for. If I need directions I can actually walk up to people and ask!
And 2 batteries for music/phone...my bad, seems like a better idea I suppose. Still, ~5 hours doesn't seem like much. Mine can last for about 2 days.
$99 folks, $99
I doubt your phone can last 2 days. Thats 5 hours talking time. So, if you were to talk for 5 hours straight on a fully charged phone, it would die. Its not, if the phones on for 5 hours it will run out.
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The music and actual talking on the phone are 2 seperate batteries.
That was a rumour before it was announced.
The Apple Phone will have a built-in battery similar to iPod.
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I have a $99 cell with a flashlight built in the top.
I get free incoming calls all the time and free calls after 6pm.
Never needed to change in years.
The flashlight idea was actually useful - I've even used it going through the forest when coming back from a hike at night - what the fuck is up with all of these MP3 phones? I listen to music a lot...I don't want to finish listening and realize I just drained my cell phone's power and now can't call people.
The music and actual talking on the phone are 2 seperate batteries.
also, youre free incoming calls and calls after 6pm have nothing to do with your cellphone that has the fancy flashlight in it. That would be your service provider.
Thanks for telling me what I already know! I'm just stating that that's all I really use my phone for. If I need directions I can actually walk up to people and ask!
And 2 batteries for music/phone...my bad, seems like a better idea I suppose. Still, ~5 hours doesn't seem like much. Mine can last for about 2 days.
$99 folks, $99
I doubt your phone can last 2 days. Thats 5 hours talking time. So, if you were to talk for 5 hours straight on a fully charged phone, it would die. Its not, if the phones on for 5 hours it will run out.
No, it can last 2 days. I can tell you this because it's now Thursday at 11:27am. The last time I charged was Tuesday at Steve's house where I left the charger. It has about 2 sticks left.
Thank you though, for knowing everything about phones. Judging by your infinite knowledge that Cloud02 pointed out in your previous post, I shall get out of this topic before I get owned again
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I have a $99 cell with a flashlight built in the top.
I get free incoming calls all the time and free calls after 6pm.
Never needed to change in years.
The flashlight idea was actually useful - I've even used it going through the forest when coming back from a hike at night - what the fuck is up with all of these MP3 phones? I listen to music a lot...I don't want to finish listening and realize I just drained my cell phone's power and now can't call people.
The music and actual talking on the phone are 2 seperate batteries.
also, youre free incoming calls and calls after 6pm have nothing to do with your cellphone that has the fancy flashlight in it. That would be your service provider.
Thanks for telling me what I already know! I'm just stating that that's all I really use my phone for. If I need directions I can actually walk up to people and ask!
And 2 batteries for music/phone...my bad, seems like a better idea I suppose. Still, ~5 hours doesn't seem like much. Mine can last for about 2 days.
$99 folks, $99
I doubt your phone can last 2 days. Thats 5 hours talking time. So, if you were to talk for 5 hours straight on a fully charged phone, it would die. Its not, if the phones on for 5 hours it will run out.
No, it can last 2 days. I can tell you this because it's now Thursday at 11:27am. The last time I charged was Tuesday at Steve's house where I left the charger. It has about 2 sticks left.
Thank you though, for knowing everything about phones. Judging by your infinite knowledge that Cloud02 pointed out in your previous post, I shall get out of this topic before I get owned again
Yeah thats great that you charged it at Steves house 2 days ago, but you haven't been talking on your phone since you left Steves house, and you still arent talking on it. Your phone being on for 2 days and you talking on your phone for 2 days straight are completely different things.
Yeah, my bad about the 2 batteries, I thought that was legit.
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I don't understand. How is 2 days 5 hours talking time.
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
i dont quite see that happening, as the cellphone market is MUCH more cutthroat than the mp3 market.
i see it doing fairly well tho; alot of ipod users trust the apple brandname and will probably get unlocked ones (b/c cingular suck ass).
if it looks as good as it sounds and works, i'm totally going to get one. the most attractive feature is that it has wifi so you can actually surf the internet without having to buy another internet ISP plan from a cell carrier while they ream you in the ass.
By the time it hits the market, there will be a number of phones with WiFi already out.
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I don't understand. How is 2 days 5 hours talking time.
Standby != Talk time.
.002 dollars != .002 cents.
Your phone may be on, but it's not actually in use. Can you call someone and talk to them for 5 hours straight? Probably not. Standby time varies vastly from phone to phone, but talk time certainly kills the standby.
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if it looks as good as it sounds and works, i'm totally going to get one. the most attractive feature is that it has wifi so you can actually surf the internet without having to buy another internet ISP plan from a cell carrier while they ream you in the ass.
also, cingular unlocks any of their phones if you are on their network for 3 months or more.
dude the HTC phones have wifi built in them too. Check around at the other phones that cingular offers, besides you can unlock other phones too, they are instructions on the interweb...
apple inc. got pwned by cisco systems, have a nice day :lol:
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I don't understand. How is 2 days 5 hours talking time.
Standby != Talk time.
.002 dollars != .002 cents.
Your phone may be on, but it's not actually in use. Can you call someone and talk to them for 5 hours straight? Probably not. Standby time varies vastly from phone to phone, but talk time certainly kills the standby.
Downtime at lunch today, so I decided to humor you fucks. I have a total of 7.2 hours since Tuesday on my cell phone.
And again, I have a flashlight on my phone - best tool that I could have asked for. Fuck that camera phone bullshit...sure, I see people using them every once in a while - but they keep them on their phones - never once has a friend given me a pic taken from a cell phone.
I don't even know what I'm arguing, I've just been without a computer for a couple of days and am antsy
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
i dont quite see that happening, as the cellphone market is MUCH more cutthroat than the mp3 market.
i see it doing fairly well tho; alot of ipod users trust the apple brandname and will probably get unlocked ones (b/c cingular suck ass).
if it looks as good as it sounds and works, i'm totally going to get one. the most attractive feature is that it has wifi so you can actually surf the internet without having to buy another internet ISP plan from a cell carrier while they ream you in the ass.
By the time it hits the market, there will be a number of phones with WiFi already out.
again, almost all of HTC's products have WiFi in them (they have a different name in the US than in the rest of the world eg. Cingular 8525 is acutally called HTC Hermes), and almost all of the Nokia N-series has WiFi in it.
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Hahaha, funniest thread in a while.
Geefer you really are one in a million, my phone (SE W810i) has a torch (flash) too, great, really helps a lot when it is dark.
What model of phone do you have?
Edit,
Full charge lasts around a week, talk time the usual 5 hours or so.
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Hahaha, funniest thread in a while.
Geefer you really are one in a million, my phone (SE W810i) has a torch (flash) too, great, really helps a lot when it is dark.
What model of phone do you have?
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Full charge lasts around a week, talk time the usual 5 hours or so.
It's a Nokia that I got with Virgin Mobile. I have no idea.
One time, while drunk and stumbling home, my friend dropped my phone. The fucking thing shattered all over the place. We sat there and stuffed pieces back in while trying to snap the fucking case back together.
Before we snapped the case, we hear something faint. We put up the "receiver" to our ears and low and behold, the person is still on the line wondering what the fuck we were doing.
I love phones that are built solid, and I am getting sick of how slim and multi-functional they are. The more things it can do, the more fragile it becomes.
I scare easily from things with big screens and/or moving parts because you're constantly outside holding it beside you 6 feet in the air while doing other tasks. I realise they're reducing costs and want to make their product look sleek, but I'd like to be able to drop my shit every once in a while without a BSOD MACXSOX INTERNAL ERROR BILL GATES STYLER.
Hell, I even dropped my phone into the toilet once...all I had to do was take the battery out and put it back in...mnmmmm
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I don't understand. How is 2 days 5 hours talking time.
you a4re fucking dumb
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
i dont quite see that happening, as the cellphone market is MUCH more cutthroat than the mp3 market.
i see it doing fairly well tho; alot of ipod users trust the apple brandname and will probably get unlocked ones (b/c cingular suck ass).
if it looks as good as it sounds and works, i'm totally going to get one. the most attractive feature is that it has wifi so you can actually surf the internet without having to buy another internet ISP plan from a cell carrier while they ream you in the ass.
By the time it hits the market, there will be a number of phones with WiFi already out.
again, almost all of HTC's products have WiFi in them (they have a different name in the US than in the rest of the world eg. Cingular 8525 is acutally called HTC Hermes), and almost all of the Nokia N-series has WiFi in it.
who cares if you get wifi on a phone today that has awful resolution, and a terrible interface. if they are charging 500 bucks for this, i still maintain its a good deal.
I have an ipod nano right now, that I still love, but it cant and is not expected to do videos. With this, I could download and play video podcasts, and still have the ipod features that I already have, and exercize with it (since its flash). It has a cellphone and a camera, and if i find a wifi spot, i can surf the internet real easy and actaully read the webpage. So it doesnt have 3g, i dont care, if it did, i wouldnt pay for that shit anyway.
the only thing that would suck is if the 5 hour battery life is actually like 2 or some shit. And it would be cool if you could load new apps on it, but really I think they did exactly what they said they would and re-invented the phone. they took all the standard features and make it so simple and so much better. I'd say it lived up to the hype.
here's a link for those of you who disagree:
http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/11/iphone-debate-im-a-mac-vs-bill-gates/
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One of the conditions of the deal was that Cisco wanted to work with Apple to ensure interoperability among the companies' product lines, Chandler said. While specific details of the negotiations haven't been made public, a Cisco representative indicated Thursday that the interoperability clause rejected by Apple would have encompassed a range of products from Cisco and Apple.
http://news.com.com/Why+cant+Apple,+Cisco+just+play+nice/2100-1039_3-6149663.html
Are Apple fucken stupid? Do they not remember the past? Why did Apple go broke in the first place? Because they didn't want to work with other companies and open their shit up. They used their on technology that lead to their demise.
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
i dont quite see that happening, as the cellphone market is MUCH more cutthroat than the mp3 market.
i see it doing fairly well tho; alot of ipod users trust the apple brandname and will probably get unlocked ones (b/c cingular suck ass).
if it looks as good as it sounds and works, i'm totally going to get one. the most attractive feature is that it has wifi so you can actually surf the internet without having to buy another internet ISP plan from a cell carrier while they ream you in the ass.
By the time it hits the market, there will be a number of phones with WiFi already out.
again, almost all of HTC's products have WiFi in them (they have a different name in the US than in the rest of the world eg. Cingular 8525 is acutally called HTC Hermes), and almost all of the Nokia N-series has WiFi in it.
who cares if you get wifi on a phone today that has awful resolution, and a terrible interface. if they are charging 500 bucks for this, i still maintain its a good deal.
I have an ipod nano right now, that I still love, but it cant and is not expected to do videos. With this, I could download and play video podcasts, and still have the ipod features that I already have, and exercize with it (since its flash). It has a cellphone and a camera, and if i find a wifi spot, i can surf the internet real easy and actaully read the webpage. So it doesnt have 3g, i dont care, if it did, i wouldnt pay for that shit anyway.
the only thing that would suck is if the 5 hour battery life is actually like 2 or some shit. And it would be cool if you could load new apps on it, but really I think they did exactly what they said they would and re-invented the phone. they took all the standard features and make it so simple and so much better. I'd say it lived up to the hype.
here's a link for those of you who disagree:
http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/01/11/iphone-debate-im-a-mac-vs-bill-gates/
You've turned into quite the Apple whore since you got your iPod, haven't you?
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And it would be cool if you could load new apps on it, but really I think they did exactly what they said they would and re-invented the phone. they took all the standard features and make it so simple and so much better. I'd say it lived up to the hype.
Yeah, that would have been cool
It isn't OS X proper, as you'd expect. And like an iPod, it won't be an open system that people can develop for. Remember, this is both an iPod and a Phone.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/gizmodo-iphone-hands-on-part-deux-why-isnt-it-white-and-other-questions-227575.php
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well i dont know about apple whore but i can appreciate a good product design when i see one. The ipod is the best audio player out on the market with nothing else thats close to its interface or experience. The iphone seems to do that same thing for phones. Do i like macs in general? Nope. My lab is full of macs and I cant stand them. Is Apple TV a great product? Nope, that looks like shit too. They cant all be winners but if you can be objective I think in your heart of hearts, you know these two products are leaps and bounds better than anything else out. I challenge you to prove me wrong...
One can make the arguent that the reason its not Open is because they dont want 3rd party applications cluttering up the interface or not being as well thought out as the default apple apps that come with it. They want to maintain a certain quality control on the product and perhaps thats why they are doing so. Also, you gotta remember its really just a phone/mp3 player, its not a computer, even though it runs OSX, maybe these factors together led to the closed OS route.
I for one dont agree with it, and I think in successive generations, they will face immense market pressure to open it up. I think they should let other people make stuff for it, if they so choose, but for what it comes with, I think it covers all the bases. This is not an enterprise solution, this is for people like me who dont want to wear cargo pants every fucking day to store all the little gadgets in each pocket when you can have one thing that does everything within reason, and does it well.
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One can make the arguent that the reason its not Open is because they dont want 3rd party applications cluttering up the interface or not being as well thought out as the default apple apps that come with it. They want to maintain a certain quality control on the product and perhaps thats why they are doing so.
Ok, I've seen this same point being argued by Mac-fanboys in a couple of other places now, so I'll just rant here:
What makes you think the Apple developers are like some super brilliant coders that no other 3rd party company can even match? Other companies (Google alone, for fucks sake) can write apps that are just as well thought out as your precious Apple. Don't give me that bullshit that because it's all one company, they can write better software for it. Make a good fucking API for your product, and third parties won't have any problems writing code to work flawlessly.
Secondly, how is giving the user the option to decide what apps they want and what apps they don't make it cluttered? I am perfectly capable of making the decision of what is cluttered to me since I will be the one using the phone. Not Steve fucking Jobs over there. Maybe he likes an empty desktop, and I like it crammed with icons. I paid for the thing, I should be the one making that decision. Maybe, just maybe, I'll actually want to uninstall all their useless shit Apple apps and just have one Google Talk on it, and that's it (how's that for less cluttered?). But noo... if it's made by Apple, you must need it, and it must be perfect.
Unless you didn't read the spec sheets, they don't want to maintain a certain control of their product - they want to have a strangle hold on absolutely everything related to it (it's locked down to one network for the next two years even). There's no flexibility at all - why have an advanced OS loaded onto a device if you can't do shit with it? They've buckled down OSX so much that all it basically is just a cellphone OS, just like every other cellphone OS out there. Oh, except they slapped the OSX logo on it, and everyone went "Ooooohhhhh it runs OSX!" Last time I checked, OSX let me install and uninstall programs.
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This shit's too expensive. If it's $499 with a 2 year contract, what is it without?
I'll pass, just like the PS3 and the Xbox360 thanks much.
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Ok, I've seen this same point being argued by Mac-fanboys in a couple of other places now, so I'll just rant here:
What the fuck is wrong with you? did you not just read my last paragraph where I said I understand why they did it, but I dont like it and I wish I had the autonomy to choose what i wanted? You should read in entirety what i said before you go on your silly rants that doesn't serve to dispute what I said at all.
and frankly, no, if all the others could make applications as good as apple has, then no one would even think the iphone was revolutionary, everyone would just be like 'meh' instead of "omg i want to suck steve's cock, his semen is full of brilliant ideas!"
like i said before, Motorola has been making cellphones for 20 years, and they get owned by a company who does it for 2?
And the only thing google created that works well is their search engine (i dont count google maps, becuase thats still search). all their other stuff has essentially failed or is about the same as their competitors stuff.
The only thing you can expect from apple's apps is that they work, period. I cant say that about any other software companies that are big players which can say they have a consistent record of doing it as apple has on their devices (besides their shitty macs).
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apple makes good apps?
qucktime and itunes sucks major donkey balls. give me WMP over that shit any day of the week.
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like i said before, Motorola has been making cellphones for 20 years, and they get owned by a company who does it for 2?
Uhm.. who owned Motorola?
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No GPS inside = crap
N95 > iPhone
And by the time iPhone arrives in the UK(November 2007?) N95 will be waaay cheaper.
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Ok, I've seen this same point being argued by Mac-fanboys in a couple of other places now, so I'll just rant here:
What the fuck is wrong with you? did you not just read my last paragraph where I said I understand why they did it, but I dont like it and I wish I had the autonomy to choose what i wanted? You should read in entirety what i said before you go on your silly rants that doesn't serve to dispute what I said at all.
I quoted one of your paragraphs, and said I've seen this same thing said in other places, and decided to rant against it. It's not my fucking fault your last paragraph contradicts what you were saying in the paragraph I quoted. Also, as I pointed out, i was ranting against all the other Mac-fanboys, including (but not exclusive to) you.
and frankly, no, if all the others could make applications as good as apple has, then no one would even think the iphone was revolutionary, everyone would just be like 'meh' instead of "omg i want to suck steve's cock, his semen is full of brilliant ideas!"
Moving on, i'll just start by saying there's a huge difference between applications and devices. They're actually two very different things. One is software, and the other is hardware bundled with firmware. But obviously you wouldn't know that.
Secondly, there have been fads coming and going where everybody goes, "omg that is the awesomest thing evarrrr" (see Pokemon) all the time. Doesn't mean that it's actually a good idea, and usually it's only the people with the brain capacity of a rabbit that buy into them.
like i said before, Motorola has been making cellphones for 20 years, and they get owned by a company who does it for 2?
You're are soo full of shit. Motorola got owned by a company that has been making cellphones for 2 years? What company would that be? Apple? Cause Apple's cellphone doesn't even have a set release date announced yet. Not to mention have any devices on the market. Let me remind you, that to own somebody in something, you actually have to participate in it.
And the only thing google created that works well is their search engine (i dont count google maps, becuase thats still search). all their other stuff has essentially failed or is about the same as their competitors stuff.
"i don't count google maps, because that's still a search engine". I don't even want to explain how retarded that statement is. Also, is Google Talk just a search engine as well? Afterall, it has the option to search your contacts, hence it must be just a glorified search engine. Google Desktop too.
The only thing you can expect from apple's apps is that they work, period. I cant say that about any other software companies that are big players which can say they have a consistent record of doing it as apple has on their devices (besides their shitty macs).
Here you make 3 claims: the first that Apple makes apps that "just work" (which they don't, because a shitload of people have had problems with iTunes), the third that Apple and their Macs suck (which not surprisingly completely contradicts claim one), and the second that no other software company has a consistent record of putting out good software and/or devices (I'm not sure which because as I pointed out earlier, you don't seem to see the difference between the two), which is also not true, because there is lots of software that just works, and lots of devices that just work too. My Sony Ericsson just works, but I'm not going all gaga over that fact, as I've kind of expected it to. My TV just works too. Both of those are made by Sony, and neither of them have ever crashed. Which I can't say the same about iPods, because a couple of people I know that have iPods have had them completely crap out on them.
Xank, I don't think that anyone here would disagree that you are the ideal Apple consumer.
On a separate note, Apple had it waayy easier with the iPod because it created a new market of mass-storage music players with it. The iPhone will have a much tougher time, as its entering a tight market, with lots of players with lots of muscle, and the only truly new thing they are bringing to the table is the multi-touch screen.
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According to a preliminary bill-of-materials estimate by iSuppli, the $599 Apple iPhone could net Apple over a 50 percent gross margin, the analyst firm said Thursday.
With the cost to manufacture an 8 Gbyte iPhone estimated to be about $280 in total expense, the remainder of the $599 total retail price is estimated to be pure profit – which will flow back to Apple, as the company is forbidding carriers to subsidize or discount the phones.
Unlike other "teardown" services performed by iSuppli, the firm did not have an actual iPhone in hand to disassemble. The company said it was working off of its own component estimates, based on similar teardowns of competing phones, laptops, and other devices.
Working models of the iPhone must also be submitted to the FCC for approval. However, a small number of working prototypes have already been distributed for hands-on previews, proving that the iPhone is nearing its final design.
High-profit products are no stranger at Apple, which has claimed margins of 45 percent on the iPod nano, iSuppli analysts said, who predicted that Apple will have to cut prices to keep up with the market. "With a 50 percent gross margin, Apple is setting itself up for aggressive price declines going forward," said Jagdish Rebello, director and principal analyst with iSuppli, in a statement.
Specifically, the 4-Gbyte model will carry a gross margin of 50.7 percent, iSuppli estimated, while th 8-Gbyte iPhone will earn Apple a 53.1 percent margin, the firm said.
In terms of cost, the most expensive component will be either the four or eight gigabytes of flash memory, which provides the local storage for music and other data. At an estimated $35 for the 4-Gbyte version and $70 for the 8-Gbyte model, the cost outstrips even the flashiest element of the iPhone, the 320x480 touch screen, which is estimated to cost $33.50 for both models, and slightly less than $35 if a controller chip is added in.
In terms of features and form factors, the closest competitor to the Apple iPhone is LG's KE850, which will ship later this year, said Tina Teng, an analyst with wireless communications for iSuppli. She predicted that OEMs would build phones with a similar look and feel to compete with the iPhone, much like candy-colored PCs competed with the first iMacs, and flash-based MP3 players have virtually eliminated hard-drive-based players.
Shipments of music-enabled mobile phones will rise to 618.1 million units in 2007, up 39.9 percent from 441.7 million units in 2006, iSuppli predicts. By 2010, shipments of such phones will increase to 1 billion units, the firm said.
http://www.osnn.net/comments.php?shownews=13627
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Cisco drops copyright lawsuit. Apple keeps the iphone name, so does cisco:
The companies [cisco and apple] did not disclose specific terms of the deal, including whether or not any direct financial payments will be made.
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/55906.html
Well, I'm glad that's over.
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Cisco drops copyright lawsuit. Apple keeps the iphone name, so does cisco:
The companies [cisco and apple] did not disclose specific terms of the deal, including whether or not any direct financial payments will be made.
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/55906.html
Well, I'm glad that's over.
No kidding. I'm totally relieved that there isn't going to be any red tape in regards to this product I will never buy.
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SEOUL, South Korea Samsung Electronics Co. has unveiled a new mobile phone that features some of the sleek design and functions of Apple's much-hyped iPhone.
Samsung F700 third-generation (3G) technology is considerably faster than the iPhone's EDGE system, and its 5-megapixel camera with autofocus outclasses the iPhone's 2-megapixel camera.
Samsung's Ultra Smart F700 also includes VibeTonz, a vibration system introduced in the recent W559 that simulates tactile feedback to touchscreen presses. On the iPhone, many reviewers complained about the lack of feedback in typing on such a small surface with your thumbs.
Samsung's F700 also includes a slide-out keyboard to accommodate typing and Web browsing.
http://i4.asiantown.net/1/f700.jpg
http://i4.asiantown.net/1/300_samsungiphone1.jpg
Samsung F700 Specifications
Standard HSDPA 7.2Mbps, EDGE 900/1800/1900 MHz + 2.1GHz
Camera 5 Megapixel with Auto-Focus
Display 262744 TFT (2.78â€, 440x240)
Features
Full Touch Screen
MPEG4/H.263/H.264/Real MP3/AAC(+)/eAAC+/Real
QWERTY Keypad
MMS / E-mail / JAVA / WAP 2.0
Bluetooth / USB
Flash UI / Document Viewer
Full HTML Browsing
Offline Mode, BGM
Memory microSD
Size 104 x 50 x 16.4mm
iPhone = pwnt.
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Now that samsung is sex. Fuck that apple shit.
Only problem is it wont be in New Zealand for 1-2yrs prolly. Were so slow on this shit.
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"]Now that samsung is sex. Fuck that apple shit.
+1, my phone has 3.2MP cam, iphone has 2MP and its not even out yet
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ive learned something. apple has a way of putting shit in a box in such a way that people will still buy it. the ipod is a good example. sound quality sucks compared to other players, but people still buy it. apple's strength isnt technology, its marketing.
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ive learned something. apple has a way of putting shit in a box in such a way that people will still buy it. the ipod is a good example. sound quality sucks compared to other players, but people still buy it. apple's strength isnt technology, its marketing.
After much twisting of my elongated mustache, I must say you just might be onto something, dear boy.
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ive learned something. apple has a way of putting shit in a box in such a way that people will still buy it. the ipod is a good example. sound quality sucks compared to other players, but people still buy it. apple's strength isnt technology, its marketing.
After much twisting of my elongated mustache, I must say you just might be onto something, dear boy.
this = best post ever
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I forgot to mention this revelation also caused my monocle to fall out. Good thing for that tether chain.
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I read this thing is coming out in the usa next month.
I really want one but as usuall the EU date is not set. gaysex =(
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I just got the Moto Q Black. Love it. Somebody even ripped Mobile Office from WM6 to work on WM5, so I got that too.
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I just got the Moto Q Black. Love it. Somebody even ripped Mobile Office from WM6 to work on WM5, so I got that too.
Looks kind of like a blackberry.
Thing is I really need a new phone. I still have a sony ericsson t230 but I am afraid I will be disapointed if I go and rush buy one now.
I mean look at this video for the iphone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk
When he flips the album covers in the mp3 player its just woah.
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Another presentation of the iPhone
http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour.html
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iPhone will cost you at least $60 a month
The rate plans for the voice service are bundled with the data plan and come in three different configurations. All three plans include unlimited data, mobile to mobile and includes Visual Voicemail. Visual Voicemail allows users to “see” the voicemail messages listed that are available to listen to and choose which to hear. The three monthly rates available for the iPhone run $59, $79 and $99 with voice minutes of 450, 900 and 1350, respectively.
http://www.slipperybrick.com/2007/06/iphone-rates-activation/
http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html
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450, 900, and 1350? These Fuckers! Isn't it the standard 500, 1000, and 1500 for most companies?
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450, 900, and 1350? These Fuckers! Isn't it the standard 500, 1000, and 1500 for most companies?
nah the new at&t has a 450 plan, w/ rollover, um2m, 5000 n&w, a 900 plan w/ rollover, um2m, un&w, 1350 plan w/ rollover, um2m, un&w, they've had those same plans for a long time. you're getting rollover + unlimited m2m calling so minute usage should be less than most competitors who offer more minutes.
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IT is like $750 for the best plan w/8gb iphone. Buahahhahaha 3/4 of a G for a phone
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/technology/circuits/27pogue.html?em&ex=1183089600&en=39abca6879bfb8e0&ei=5087%0A
http://video.on.nytimes.com/index.jsp?fr_story=caed76f16c6132710db58210df3940afb8a3f7c8
In short
--No memory card slot
--Does not support 3G network
--Only accepts programs made by apple (of course, it IS a fucking apple product)
--Reception is only OK
PS: Don't have a NYT acct? Too bad.
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I like this guy's videos, they're pretty entertaining even though I've never heard of him before.
Seriousely though, the iPhone is simply so much cooler than any other phone that people will just buy it for that, not its reception. People stopped buying cell phones so that they can TALK to people with them years ago. If they're willing to pay over 500 bucks for other crap phones, they'll pay it for this one too.
It'll be just like the iPods...they're not better or cheaper than other mp3 players, but people still buy them.
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I'd buy N95 over iPhone for sure, just look at the specs:
N95 has built-in GPS, iPhone doesn't.
N95 has 3G+HSDPA = 3.6Mbps downlink speeds (at least where I live), iPhone has just EDGE (EGPRS) = 384Kbps
N95 has 5Mp camera, while iPhone has only 2Mp
N95 runs S60v3 (symbian 9.x) programs, while iPhone will obviously run only OSX programs designed for it.
iPhone does have the touchscreen going for it, and also the 8GB storage and most likely good media support (which is the case with N95 also) and the apple design. Well for an Apple fanatic that's probably more than enough, but the specs are not cutting it for me.
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I'm thinking about the Cingular 8525.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/8525/?_requestid=108722
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I know this will sound like a stupid question, but I don't really keep up with cell phones. I just have my black one from (I think) Samsung and have a decent contract:
I want to buy a new one at the beginning of next year - one like that Cingular or the newer better Samsung. If I hook my e-mails up through it, when it checks for e-mail, do I have to pay for kb/s service?
If so, that's another thing I have to tack on to the contract that can usually skyrocket if you're not careful. I mean, how do I know how many e-mails I'll get? Might be a bunch of shit but would cost me like $5.
All these new phones look sexy - I love how the iPhone "flips" the shit when you tilt it. So cool.
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engadget mobile:
Here's a few fresh n' interesting iPhone facts right off the presses:
* The mobile version of OS X or whatever it is the iPhone runs takes up 700MB of the device's capacity. Damn son!
* There's no way to cut, copy, or paste text! WHOA! Big, big mistake.
* No A2DP support. That, friends, is such a huge bummer right there.
* Sorry, music can't be used as a ringtone -- even if it's just a raw MP3. No additional ringtones will be sold at launch.
* On a PC the iPhone syncs with Outlook for calendars AND addresses! Noice.
* It supports Exchange in some capacity, according to Walt, but he doesn't exactly say how.
* Pogue again confirms document file reading -- but not editing -- for PDF, Word, and Excel (only).
* Adobe Flash support is officially out. It's just not in the browser. Neither is there any other kind of embedded video support. Sorry everybody, that's that.
* It will take snaps, but won't record video. How can Apple love YouTube as much as it does and not realize cellphone-shot movies make up a sizeable chunk of the crazy crap you find on there?
* Oh, and no MMS. And sorry, no voice dialing, either.
* Contact groups can't be emailed as contact lists.
* Apple sez between 300-400 charges the iPhone will lose battery capacity -- you'll send it in and get the cell replaced for a fee. Meh. We knew this would be the case, but still, meh.
* Apple can (and supposedly will) be rolling out periodic updates -- no surprise there.
* Battery life is, somehow, almost as mind-blowingly good as Apple claims for calls, music, and movies.
* As we suspected, users are prompted with lists of WiFi networks if you're not nearby a trusted hotspot. We've seen this on other phones, and we're afraid this would get friggin annoying.
* It's said to be very scratch resistant. The facade both front and rear apparently just doesn't pick up marring like regular iPods do.
* Voice quality is said to be good -- not great.
I must say.. No A2DP and no voice calling is like shooting yourself in your foot.
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Not looking forward to it. The service is expensive and the phone does not impress me specs wise. Only thing I like is the touchscreen.
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i think its just silly if anyone thought apple would just let you use your mp3s as ringtones. I'm sure even if they wanted to, the RIAA and others would be up in arms about that cannibalizing sales of ringtones.
what i dont like about this phone is that you cant swap out the battery or add memory. the touchscreen may be cool but i think it might also get annoying real quick. you also dont have any hard buttons (they should have at least included a pause button, so that when you're listening to music at work, you can easily pause without taking the whole thing out).
really i think that the next version will have a removable battery, possibly expandable memory, 3g and a click wheel. Will wait for that one.
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its going to bomb in Europe if this version comes here. And Japan? They are laughing at this (and all other non-japanese phones too).
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I'm still liking my Moto Q much more, all things considered. It has a lot of features and capabilities the iBlown is missing. Oh, and I only paid $170 for it too.
No voice dialing? What a bunch of shit! I can't believe that. I live on voice dialing through my bluetooth headset. That's fucking ridiculous. I guess Steve figures if you have voice dialing, that will equal taking the thing out of your pocket fewer times so other people will have fewer chances to gawk at it and want to run down to AT&T to buy one.
Hah, they don't even use a network faster than my EVDO, which is starting to seem slow these days. Big mistake there too.
I also just read a newsweek review where the guy couldn't get SMTP working. He was told "Maybe your ISP is blocking port 25". Wow. AT&T doesn't give you a proper working SMTP address for your $500 phone?
I can also EDIT office documents, not just read them. Not that I really care, but it's still something I get to hold up over the iBlown, and that has FUCK YOU value at least.
No custom music ringtones? Classic Apple closed architecture strikes again!
No video camera? Bahah.
Outlook Email/Calendar/Contact/Address syncing? Got that. Is it easy? I think plugging in the phone and watching it all happen automatically is pretty easy. Google maps? Got that too. GPS? Yup. So what if it has to be an external bluetooth GPS. It's the size of a pack of gum.
Fuck Apple and fuck iBlown straight to hell.
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Do you think the iPhone is going to sell out ala PS2/PS3 so that I could make a nice profit selling them on eBay? Or do you think there will be more than enough to go around?
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I'm still liking my Moto Q much more, all things considered. It has a lot of features and capabilities the iBlown is missing. Oh, and I only paid $170 for it too.
No voice dialing? What a bunch of shit! I can't believe that. I live on voice dialing through my bluetooth headset. That's fucking ridiculous. I guess Steve figures if you have voice dialing, that will equal taking the thing out of your pocket fewer times so other people will have fewer chances to gawk at it and want to run down to AT&T to buy one.
Hah, they don't even use a network faster than my EVDO, which is starting to seem slow these days. Big mistake there too.
I also just read a newsweek review where the guy couldn't get SMTP working. He was told "Maybe your ISP is blocking port 25". Wow. AT&T doesn't give you a proper working SMTP address for your $500 phone?
I can also EDIT office documents, not just read them. Not that I really care, but it's still something I get to hold up over the iBlown, and that has FUCK YOU value at least.
No custom music ringtones? Classic Apple closed architecture strikes again!
No video camera? Bahah.
Outlook Email/Calendar/Contact/Address syncing? Got that. Is it easy? I think plugging in the phone and watching it all happen automatically is pretty easy. Google maps? Got that too. GPS? Yup. So what if it has to be an external bluetooth GPS. It's the size of a pack of gum.
Fuck Apple and fuck iBlown straight to hell.
Take a deep breath and calm the fuck down.
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NEVER
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can the Q really do all that? maybe I should get that phone... can i get it so that its free if i sign a 2 year deal or something? I've never paid for a phone yet.
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can the Q really do all that? maybe I should get that phone... can i get it so that its free if i sign a 2 year deal or something? I've never paid for a phone yet.
Yeah it can. Of course it's a "conventional" smartphone, but it's the best out there and there's all kinds of apps for it, and of course a "scene" to go along with it.
I don't think you're going to get it free though. I'm on Verizon (ripoff, yes, but I can't give up the signal and all the in-calling) and I know Sprint also has it. You're still going to pay a few bucks for it, although of course you at least get a discount.
Check out: http://wiki.everythingq.com/
Edit: Oh yeah, and NES, SNES, and Genesis emulators aren't such a bad perk either.
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man i really wanted the iphone [not that i was actually gonna buy it] but between cloud and phreaker that thing looks more like a paperweight. still love the touchscreen though. maybe their 2nd/3rd gen will be better. maybe. hopefully.
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man i really wanted the iphone [not that i was actually gonna buy it] but between cloud and phreaker that thing looks more like a paperweight. still love the touchscreen though. maybe their 2nd/3rd gen will be better. maybe. hopefully.
this seems to be the case with alot of people. at first, everyone was amazed, but now with the specs we know, its really just a pretty package.
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i'm definitely going to wait for a 'nano' equivalent of the iphone. you know thats coming too. something thats even sleeker and as thin.
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also if anyone is planning to try to get one and unlock it or just buy an "unlocked" one, no can do, the sim card is tied to the imei at time of activation, if you put a different sim in it it won't work and apple sure as hell won't be offering unlock codes, neither will the new at&t. unlike other phones which allow any sim card to work w/ it (as long as it's a sim from the same provider or device is unlocked)
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its going to bomb in Europe if this version comes here. And Japan? They are laughing at this (and all other non-japanese phones too).
the japanese are laughing at nokias? ...and htc's?
ich dont think so :roll:
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its going to bomb in Europe if this version comes here. And Japan? They are laughing at this (and all other non-japanese phones too).
the japanese are laughing at nokias? ...and htc's?
ich dont think so :roll:
In fact they do... never been there i guess!? So do Koreans btw.
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its going to bomb in Europe if this version comes here. And Japan? They are laughing at this (and all other non-japanese phones too).
the japanese are laughing at nokias? ...and htc's?
pretty much yeah...
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its going to bomb in Europe if this version comes here. And Japan? They are laughing at this (and all other non-japanese phones too).
the japanese are laughing at nokias? ...and htc's?
pretty much yeah...
why???? what do they have thats better?
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Japan is like 3 years ahead of Europe in terms of cellphone technology, i dont have the time to go search up some of their phones, but you really should, there is some great shit. maybe someone else more in touch with that stuff can link us up with some phones.
http://analytica1st.com/analytica1st/2007/03/sharp-holds-top-handset-market-share-as.html
thats the market share in Japan, as you see its quite different from the rest of the world.
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Japan is like 3 years ahead of Europe in terms of cellphone technology, i dont have the time to go search up some of their phones, but you really should, there is some great shit. maybe someone else more in touch with that stuff can link us up with some phones.
http://analytica1st.com/analytica1st/2007/03/sharp-holds-top-handset-market-share-as.html
thats the market share in Japan, as you see its quite different from the rest of the world.
weird...
still havent found anything i would trade my n95 for. the only features they have and we dont are the digital tv, using ur phone as debit card, and some face or fingerprint recognition thing.
digital tv is nice but they have like 9 channels while i have over 90 using orb. the debit card thing would be useful but it would require all the merchants to upgrade their shit so they can accept cell phone payments.
there is nothing really impressive tho... did i miss something?
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HAAHAHAHA I just flipped to FOX to see how they were covering this car bomb in london and they were reporting on the iphone outside when all the sudden some dude ran up and grabbed the hand-mic from the reporter and started running. only problem was he didn't plan it out and was blocked by one of those crowd control fences and a crowd of people, so he got tackled :lol: was hoping he was gonna get away haha. they played it off as 'everyone has been wanting to get on camera' lol yea or you guys suck and he wanted to embarrass you.
well then they continued the report with some guy who had it for review and with no surprise all they say it does is phone/music/pics/vids :roll: i hate how the news never gets more detailed or talk about shortcomings, they're just free advertising.
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Just saw a little story on MSN video with curious timing... a bit from the Today show, showing viewers that Microsoft is "hard at work" making the latest and greatest portable phone technology. Their example? Mentioning Mobile Office. So in other words: forget iPhone, WM6 is coming!
Such a co-winkee-dink that piece drops this week and is featured by NBC/MSN.
P.S. Mobile Office has already been ripped to a CAB file and is installable on WM5. It ain't that fucking exciting, believe me. But, I still love my Q in all its hacky-homebrew glory.
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ALERT! First certified androgynous iPhone user spotted in Tampa!
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/06/bearded-lady-man-with-lady-hair.html
And certainly, not the last.
CONTEST: come up with the best caption for the pic. First entry:
"This is the greatest thing since CK ONE!"
"Hello, Chris? It's Pat!"
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HAAHAHAHA I just flipped to FOX to see how they were covering this car bomb in london and they were reporting on the iphone outside when all the sudden some dude ran up and grabbed the hand-mic from the reporter and started running. only problem was he didn't plan it out and was blocked by one of those crowd control fences and a crowd of people, so he got tackled :lol: was hoping he was gonna get away haha. they played it off as 'everyone has been wanting to get on camera' lol yea or you guys suck and he wanted to embarrass you.
well then they continued the report with some guy who had it for review and with no surprise all they say it does is phone/music/pics/vids :roll: i hate how the news never gets more detailed or talk about shortcomings, they're just free advertising.
http://tinyurl.com/2bzoqp <------ Video
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HAAHAHAHA I just flipped to FOX to see how they were covering this car bomb in london and they were reporting on the iphone outside when all the sudden some dude ran up and grabbed the hand-mic from the reporter and started running. only problem was he didn't plan it out and was blocked by one of those crowd control fences and a crowd of people, so he got tackled :lol: was hoping he was gonna get away haha. they played it off as 'everyone has been wanting to get on camera' lol yea or you guys suck and he wanted to embarrass you.
well then they continued the report with some guy who had it for review and with no surprise all they say it does is phone/music/pics/vids :roll: i hate how the news never gets more detailed or talk about shortcomings, they're just free advertising.
http://tinyurl.com/2bzoqp <------ Video
score!!! :lol:
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they have a whole attack of the show episode on the iphone. yeah the show sux but i wanted to see how the final iphone looks and works. the os seems fast and it seems like a pretty cool phone but for like $600 and a 3yr contract... fuck that. if it was JUST 600 it MIGHT have been worth it.
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I just got a palm treo 700wx for free via rebates and such. My plan is also awesome including unlimited text, email, internet and all that other good shit. You can tether with the phone also. Tons of scene apps such as free TV, stations like espn. Check out www.slickdeals.net forums and then do a sero search. $30.00 a month is the plan. They offer any spint phone. The MOTO q, 700 wx, PPC 6800. Btw do not get a blackberry because they will then cost a lot more for your plan. The 700 wx can use a sd card for memory, and it has windows mobile 5.0 included so it has windows media player and you could use it as a mp3 player also.
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blackjack user here, and i must say i'm really happy with it except for the fact that it doesnt have wifi. but i heard that there might be a sd card wifi thing commin out. annyways for 70 us, you cant beat this phone.
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as of today or yester reached half million sold
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Fucking clones
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And of course, what would a major hardware release be without a few of these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy20b7pCcrY
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as of today or yester reached half million sold
Now that everybody that owns a Mac bought one for himself, who's gonna buy it next?
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as of today or yester reached half million sold
Now that everybody that owns a Mac bought one for himself, who's gonna buy it next?
another half million with the initial price drop down to 350-400, and another hundred thou when the upgrade comes out, and so on and so forth until they come out with the iSmack, where if you dont buy there product they keep smacking you until you buy it...
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it was funny seeing all the sheep waiting outside and getting so excited to buy their iphone, fucking idiots
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hah... iphone costs 200 bucks to make, 240 for the 8gb version. 66% markup. thats insane that they're making like 400 bucks on the phone. I think if they made a hundred bucks on it and made it 300 or 350, there would have been riots, everyone would have run ot the store and bought one this weekend.
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hah... iphone costs 200 bucks to make, 240 for the 8gb version. 66% markup. thats insane that they're making like 400 bucks on the phone. I think if they made a hundred bucks on it and made it 300 or 350, there would have been riots, everyone would have run ot the store and bought one this weekend.
You think that a 66% markup is insane? 90% of the shit you buy is marked up waaay more than that.. Go buy a $7 sub at subway, you are paying for about 30 cents worth of food. Go buy a $200 DVI monster cable and you are paying for a $5 cable.. I have worked alot of retail and seen some absolutely insane markups, 66% is very reasonable for the iphone.
Though i still won't buy the pos, it will get jacked the second I take it out of my pocket on the train
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no i also know retail, and with those exceptions aside, 66% is a lot of markup on a consumer electronic device. you cant name anything else thats an electronic device that has that kind of markup. i mean obviously they are doing it with some purpose, whether it be because they think they can or they are recouping R&D or whatever. Even on the ipods and stuff their markup is like 25% or something, which is still more than any other product, but not quite this high. Seems counterintuitive to me to charge that much when they could lower the price a bit, still make money on each phone sold, and gain more marketshare. i mean isnt that the whole point? marketshare? its not like apple decided to make a phone, this one time, to fill a void from its clamoring apple fanbase. I thought they'd be making like 70-100 bucks off each phone, but 400 that just seems silly.
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no i also know retail, and with those exceptions aside, 66% is a lot of markup on a consumer electronic device. you cant name anything else thats an electronic device that has that kind of markup. i mean obviously they are doing it with some purpose, whether it be because they think they can or they are recouping R&D or whatever. Even on the ipods and stuff their markup is like 25% or something, which is still more than any other product, but not quite this high. Seems counterintuitive to me to charge that much when they could lower the price a bit, still make money on each phone sold, and gain more marketshare. i mean isnt that the whole point? marketshare? its not like apple decided to make a phone, this one time, to fill a void from its clamoring apple fanbase. I thought they'd be making like 70-100 bucks off each phone, but 400 that just seems silly.
Their markup is close to %50 for ipods, so I don't expect the iphone to be any different. This is manufacturing markup, not retail. That is a pretty insane markup and one of the reasons Apple got so rich so quick off ipods.
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The iPhone crashes.
http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/07/02/iphone_crashes/index.html
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The iPhone crashes.
http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/07/02/iphone_crashes/index.html
That, and people having/had activation problems.
One Sprint-to-AT&T switcher said both phones on a family plan had to be activated in sequence before the first one would begin to work. Another one says they've been waiting 31 hours.
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9738467-7.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
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http://tinyurl.com/2ld2y3
Apple iPhone for $1,000,001.00
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after seeing what a peice of shit my video ipod is.....and how they handle their customers with broken shit...i'll never touch anything that even looks like apple had something to do with it
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So just that we're clear it's fair to say that on the whole, the Isonews community dissaproves of this product am I right?
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So just that we're clear it's fair to say that on the whole, the Isonews community dissaproves of this product am I right?
yes.
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hah... iphone costs 200 bucks to make, 240 for the 8gb version. 66% markup. thats insane that they're making like 400 bucks on the phone. I think if they made a hundred bucks on it and made it 300 or 350, there would have been riots, everyone would have run ot the store and bought one this weekend.
You think that a 66% markup is insane? 90% of the shit you buy is marked up waaay more than that.. Go buy a $7 sub at subway, you are paying for about 30 cents worth of food. Go buy a $200 DVI monster cable and you are paying for a $5 cable.. I have worked alot of retail and seen some absolutely insane markups, 66% is very reasonable for the iphone.
Though i still won't buy the pos, it will get jacked the second I take it out of my pocket on the train
Look at watch batteries. The store I used to work at sold them for $4 each and the cost on them was only 15 cents.
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So just that we're clear it's fair to say that on the whole, the Isonews community dissaproves of this product am I right?
yes.
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fake iPhones from China (vid)
http://chaosgone.blogspot.com/2007/08/fake-iphone-from-china.html
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fake iPhones from China (vid)
http://chaosgone.blogspot.com/2007/08/fake-iphone-from-china.html
I love the Windows startup tune. :lol:
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I woulden't buy this piece of shit if you tied me up, moslested me with a carrot stick, and made me bang hiliary clinton. And the only way out was to get an iphone, bring on hiliary, wooooooooo!!!!
cunt
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I woulden't buy this piece of shit if you tied me up, moslested me with a carrot stick, and made me bang hiliary clinton. And the only way out was to get an iphone, bring on hiliary, wooooooooo!!!!
cunt
Sounds like you want an iphone.
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lol
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i use a htc tytn (http://www.europe.htc.com/products/htctytn.html)with wm6 and i can do all that shit and more... my gf has an htc touch (http://www.htctouch.com/) which even looks cool too (the tytn looks a bit too pda-like but hell who cares). and it has the scrolling thing from iphone too (called touchflo)...
and! you can install software on in! send mms! make a video!
iphone sucks like most apple stuff. great if you're a noob stuck for eternity on default. not so great if you actually want to decide yourself what you want and how.
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all you apple haters can finally get an iphone without having to suck steve's cock (if thats how you look at it in your heads anyway):
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/29/nokias-iphone-no-seriously/
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all you apple haters can finally get an iphone without having to suck steve's cock (if thats how you look at it in your heads anyway):
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/29/nokias-iphone-no-seriously/
Boring...
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iPhone 2.0 is coming.
Apple is readying significant enhancements to the software in its iPhone handset for later this year. The company takes cues from both the business and consumer worlds, finally letting third-party developers in on the action to bring games, utilities, and other apps to the phone.
These impending changes promise to radically transform the daily experience for iPhone users. Based on what we've seen of Apple's Microsoft Exchange integration and our first-hand look at the new development kit, here's what you can expect to see when the upgrade becomes available in June.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030800055.html
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they put 3g on there, and they let you unlock it, i'll get one this summer.
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You can quote me on this - it will be a bigger success than the ipod.
I think I was right on this one :D
Good looking back at some old posts here. I hope this site survives forever. Hope everyone is well, and staying safe
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Classy thread bump