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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2010, 11:21:57 PM »
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Thanks guys; this is why I love this forum so much :D


BTW, which IDE for Java should I go for: Eclipse, Net Beans or Jcreator?

I personally use NetBeans for light Java programming, pretty much personal preference really, also netbeans will allow you to create Java.Swing interfaces pretty quickly using the toolbox, wouldnt recommend using the toolbox for anything serious(and Java interface as a whole for that matter...) but it does seems like ur mainly playin around.

Even though I started programming using C++, Id say, in retrospect, that starting with Java is a far brighter idea. Java is enough for a lot of things, has a C/C++ synthax and is just pure genius of a language.

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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2010, 12:52:24 AM »
Quote from: "The Jord"
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Thanks guys; this is why I love this forum so much :D


BTW, which IDE for Java should I go for: Eclipse, Net Beans or Jcreator?

I personally use NetBeans for light Java programming, pretty much personal preference really, also netbeans will allow you to create Java.Swing interfaces pretty quickly using the toolbox, wouldnt recommend using the toolbox for anything serious(and Java interface as a whole for that matter...) but it does seems like ur mainly playin around.

Even though I started programming using C++, Id say, in retrospect, that starting with Java is a far brighter idea. Java is enough for a lot of things, has a C/C++ synthax and is just pure genius of a language.

Thanks Jord! You see, when you don't troll how nice you can be? :lol:
So basically I can start with Python and some PHP, progress to Java and finally confront myself with C++, am I right?
Also Netbeans is "more visual" than Eclipse but the latter seems more "powerful" (although the powerful attribute belongs more to the 'programming language' class than to the 'IDE' class, so to speak ;) ).

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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2010, 07:41:36 AM »
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Quote from: "The Jord"
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Thanks guys; this is why I love this forum so much :D


BTW, which IDE for Java should I go for: Eclipse, Net Beans or Jcreator?

I personally use NetBeans for light Java programming, pretty much personal preference really, also netbeans will allow you to create Java.Swing interfaces pretty quickly using the toolbox, wouldnt recommend using the toolbox for anything serious(and Java interface as a whole for that matter...) but it does seems like ur mainly playin around.

Even though I started programming using C++, Id say, in retrospect, that starting with Java is a far brighter idea. Java is enough for a lot of things, has a C/C++ synthax and is just pure genius of a language.

Thanks Jord! You see, when you don't troll how nice you can be? :lol:
So basically I can start with Python and some PHP, progress to Java and finally confront myself with C++, am I right?
Also Netbeans is "more visual" than Eclipse but the latter seems more "powerful" (although the powerful attribute belongs more to the 'programming language' class than to the 'IDE' class, so to speak ;) ).

I never actually troll, people are just easily outraged out of their wits by strongly expressed opinions.

Now, I see you do appear pretty enthusiastic about learning to program. Now now, first I'd say you shouldn't feel too concerned about setting yourself a very long envisioned roadmap to programming supremacy.

Fact of the matter is, what you should learn and what you do learn while programming will very often be on the spot things that you learn using you're general computer and programming knowledge. More importantly, all these on the spot things depends on what you're trying to create.

Getting that relative knowledge is actually what matters, and I'd say starting with Java is most likely the best way to do that. Python sounds pretty cool while being described on the internet by other experienced programmers, but the truth is Python for all its virtues is only cool once you're an experienced programmer able to enjoy it under the right circumstances.

Don't get under the impression from the above that Java is a weak language, it is simply that Java is a very versatile and trouble free, holding your hand along the way kind of language. This isnt because it's a "noob" language, it is simply really well made, the Ide's are good, the doc is amazing and a lot of people and things use it(for example, I was reading recently that 30% of Google's Android is actually Java). Finally, as was said before, stepping to c++ will be easy if you know Java and should be a good goal to set yourself. At this point, C++ should feel like a tight troublesome virgin bleeding a lil on her first time yet remaining tight afterwards(my way of saying that c++ is just sharp and fast)  

As for that IDE blatters, just use whichever you like most at start. You shouldn't really bother about Netbeans or Eclipse being more or less powerfull until quite a while lol.

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2010, 08:25:57 AM »
as for java IDEs I'd have to say go with netbeans,it does just about anything,and it's more beginner-friendly

you can use it for PHP,C/C++/ruby and anything related to java(javaME,JavaFX,JavaEE....etc)

you can also import Eclipse projects into netbeans

but if you're going to program for android,which is something you won't be doing any time soon,then go for eclipse

because netbeans doesn't have any real support for android yet

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2010, 09:32:43 AM »
Quote from: "Sargeras"
as for java IDEs I'd have to say go with netbeans,it does just about anything,and it's more beginner-friendly

you can use it for PHP,C/C++/ruby and anything related to java(javaME,JavaFX,JavaEE....etc)

you can also import Eclipse projects into netbeans

but if you're going to program for android,which is something you won't be doing any time soon,then go for eclipse

because netbeans doesn't have any real support for android yet

Thanks.
Of course Android is still a looooong way for me :lol:
I'd still like to do some simple Java apps for my jailbroken iPhone 3G though...

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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2010, 09:47:58 AM »
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Quote from: "Sargeras"
as for java IDEs I'd have to say go with netbeans,it does just about anything,and it's more beginner-friendly

you can use it for PHP,C/C++/ruby and anything related to java(javaME,JavaFX,JavaEE....etc)

you can also import Eclipse projects into netbeans

but if you're going to program for android,which is something you won't be doing any time soon,then go for eclipse

because netbeans doesn't have any real support for android yet

Thanks.
Of course Android is still a looooong way for me :lol:
I'd still like to do some simple Java apps for my jailbroken iPhone 3G though...

Good luck :D

oh,and try to write code using notepad at first,get to know the syntax because IDEs make it easy to forget to put curly braces,parenthesis....etc.

you can also use Geany

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2010, 07:35:34 PM »
Yeah, Python is driving me crazy with the forced indentation. I tried copying and pasting an example from an ebook and the indentation wasn't quite right so it was a bit difficult, I guess the 20+ hours of Visual Basic already spoiled me. :D
I also think it's a very simple language (syntax wise), very powerful, I liked the ability to execute commands directly, and with all those libraries it can lead to some powerful software development, but again it isn't my thing. I have decided to focus on Java with Netbeans and really learn it and when the time is right I will study C++.

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2010, 08:09:03 PM »
Now I have a question for you :D

why do you want to learn programming?

everybody learns how to program to achieve something

I learned to program so I can make a media player

what about you?

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2010, 09:24:35 PM »
Quote from: "Sargeras"
Now I have a question for you :D

why do you want to learn programming?

everybody learns how to program to achieve something

I learned to program so I can make a media player

what about you?

My 1st project is going to be a dieting app. Simple stuff (that's why I'd started with Visual Basic and wanted to manage an Access Database with nutrition values). I want to tackle progressively more complex problems but my ultimate goal is to program games.

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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2010, 09:29:49 PM »
If you want to program games,then I suggest learning C# directly

then you can program games using XNA

this is a fast track to learning game development

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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2010, 10:17:45 PM »
Quote from: "Sargeras"
If you want to program games,then I suggest learning C# directly

then you can program games using XNA

this is a fast track to learning game development

C# is the new kid in town isn't it?
I read that is resembles more Visual Basic than C++, am I right?

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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2010, 10:34:37 PM »
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Quote from: "Sargeras"
If you want to program games,then I suggest learning C# directly

then you can program games using XNA

this is a fast track to learning game development

C# is the new kid in town isn't it?
I read that is resembles more Visual Basic than C++, am I right?

No,C# doesn't resemble VB at all

think of it that way:

C# = Microsoft(java+C++)

:lol:

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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2010, 10:58:15 PM »
Quote from: "Sargeras"
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Quote from: "Sargeras"
If you want to program games,then I suggest learning C# directly

then you can program games using XNA

this is a fast track to learning game development

C# is the new kid in town isn't it?
I read that is resembles more Visual Basic than C++, am I right?

No,C# doesn't resemble VB at all

think of it that way:

C# = Microsoft(java+C++)

:lol:

Oh I see, since they lost the battle to Sun Microsystems they kinda fused Java and C++ in one package.
So pros are using it or at certain levels C++ is still king?

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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2010, 12:15:27 AM »
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Quote from: "Sargeras"
Quote from: "Fracicone"
Quote from: "Sargeras"
If you want to program games,then I suggest learning C# directly

then you can program games using XNA

this is a fast track to learning game development

C# is the new kid in town isn't it?
I read that is resembles more Visual Basic than C++, am I right?

No,C# doesn't resemble VB at all

think of it that way:

C# = Microsoft(java+C++)

:lol:

Oh I see, since they lost the battle to Sun Microsystems they kinda fused Java and C++ in one package.
So pros are using it or at certain levels C++ is still king?

C++ is still king,but they're slowly replacing it with C#

sadly,that won't happen if you're programming an OS,because you can't risk having C# overhead when you want your OS to be as fast as possible

C# needs .NET to run first,then do its job

C++ on the other hand,does not

as a game programmer,you won't be dealing with C++ code as long as you stick to XNA

but if you want to be as low-level as possible and control everything,you can use C++ with DirectX

but this is impossible for any beginner,it's even hard for me as a java programmer to grasp all these new concepts at once

I have to learn C++ first,then go learn DirectX

btw,Ubisoft needs both C++ and C# developers :D

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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2010, 02:59:13 AM »
Quote from: "Sargeras"
btw,Ubisoft needs both C++ and C# developers :D

Nice! Look for me in the credits for the next Ghost Recon game! ;)