Time for DVDR-based .avi scene rules?

Yes but even if it is 2 cd's with ac3 the video is 300mb on one disk along with 400mb audio. In total its 600mb video + 800mb audio which is shit if you ask me, video should be bigger.

[Eric2203]

Yes but even if it is 2 cd's with ac3 the video is 300mb on one disk along with 400mb audio. In total its 600mb video + 800mb audio which is shit if you ask me, video should be bigger.

Erm no. 400 MB both CDs, not on each.

What's the point ? If you can burn DVDs, get the DVD rip. Yes I know you said 1/4 or 1/3 of the size, but again: what's the point ? CDR for those with no DVD burner, DVD rips for those with one. I don't really see the need to add a new standard. Plus I'd rather download the DVD image than a smaller-than-DVD but bigger-than-CD avi if I can burn DVDs.

So, what do I think ? No thanks.

dvdrip (xvid/svcd) = cd

DVDR  = DVD5 (4.7 gb)


just to clearify something here :p

[Maniacripper]

just burn the cd releases to a dvd, what's the problem?

you end up with about 100mb of space which is pretty fucking picky to complain about.

[azrael69]

if you want to see true size of the audio file open the .avi in graphedit and delete everything corresponding to video and set it as a file write as the end peg on the list

anyways, it's all about DOWNLOADING bandwidth here people
DVDR takes damn long for most of us.

and yet, a lot of single-cd releases look to be about 80% watchable to me...
so Wild Beast i think it's a decent option but 1/3 of a DVDR is essentially just over 2 CDs

[jeef]

if you want to see true size of the audio file open the .avi in graphedit and delete everything corresponding to video and set it as a file write as the end peg on the list

anyways, it's all about DOWNLOADING bandwidth here people
DVDR takes damn long for most of us.

and yet, a lot of single-cd releases look to be about 80% watchable to me...
so Wild Beast i think it's a decent option but 1/3 of a DVDR is essentially just over 2 CDs

Umm, without doing all that you could drop the AVI in gspot and multiply the audio bitrate times the length in seconds / 8

xvid is the obvious download/view/delete format. nobody's actually burning it onto cds, and there's too many releases that are screwed up by the fit to a cd rule.

same with mp3s. this makes even less sense.

the people in the scene are tech savvy, yet it operates under rules that are obviously outdated. wtf?

xvid is the obvious download/view/delete format. nobody's actually burning it onto cds, and there's too many releases that are screwed up by the fit to a cd rule.

same with mp3s. this makes even less sense.

the people in the scene are tech savvy, yet it operates under rules that are obviously outdated. wtf?

I burn Xvid to CD's. I download the DVD if a movie is worth saving, but that's rare. I burn Xvid on CDRW, watch it and erase it.
I also burn mp3's on CD's for my car. 150 songs on one CD. I tried DVD's, but they don't work. It fits in the hole, but the stupid thing won't read it.

Am I outdated?

[Phreaker47]

xvid is the obvious download/view/delete format. nobody's actually burning it onto cds, and there's too many releases that are screwed up by the fit to a cd rule.

same with mp3s. this makes even less sense.

the people in the scene are tech savvy, yet it operates under rules that are obviously outdated. wtf?

I burn Xvid to CD's. I download the DVD if a movie is worth saving, but that's rare. I burn Xvid on CDRW, watch it and erase it.
I also burn mp3's on CD's for my car. 150 songs on one CD. I tried DVD's, but they don't work. It fits in the hole, but the stupid thing won't read it.

Am I outdated?

I can't believe anyone still bothers with CDRW to save 8 cents. I used to do that back when CDRs cost something significant and set top players were the only way to watch them in my living room.

It's not about price. I don't like to buy a spindle every two months. I bought a 25x CD-RW spindle 4 years ago and I'm still using those. I don't want to burn 350MB on a DVD-RW every other day.

Rules for HD would be interesting, I think a dvd5 is the way to go for that, but let's see what they come up with

[warezlove]

actually, I think the rules should be changed too.

I think most people burn to DVD, it cheaper and faster to burn. Not all people want full DVD-R. I prefer rips. They are easier to download and transfer around. I have over 10 000 movies, that would take a shit load of room -- even if they are stored in binders in a library -- to just burn them all on CDs as I did a few years ago.

Anyway, I think using fraction of a DVDR size make alot of sense. It's also a natural way to slightly improve the quality of the rips, without any concessions to the amount of movies you can fit on each DVDR. With the current 700mb, you do lose about 250mb per disc. Could go from 1/6th for movies that are under 90 mins, 1/5th for the 90-100 mins movies (the majority of them) and 1/3rd for 100-160 mins. 1/2, 2/3, Full, for movies above 160 mins.

If you want less rules. Maybe just split it in-between 1/6th 1/3rd, 2/3rd and full DVD-R for size of rips. They already do it plenty outside the official scene, I think it's a good idea really.

[azrael69]

i'm with you on that concept warezlove.
on my personal rips i've been guiding them to ~1/2 of a DVDR for a 'longer' movie (2200MB target filesize no cd1cd2cd3) and found that it yields quite decent quality without any significant resize (often none but crop)
1/3 DVDR for shorter-length movies seems to do well too.

check out this thread for a few more reasons why HD-source to full DVDR for an xvid is currently impractical. pay attention to my criticisms of the trailer.