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acidrock69
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This is a pretty good interview with the guy who plays the chemist.
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/07/incep tions_dileep_rao_answers.html
I personally believe Cobb woke up at the end because the totem wobbles at the end, and going by the credits his kids have aged. even though many have pointed to signs that would show otherwise. IE, A driver at the airport reportedly reads 'LAM' which is Mal backwards, Joseph Gordon Levitt saying 'you're welcome' to Cobb in the airport, etc.
10/10 from me
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| acidrock69 wrote: | | Joseph Gordon Levitt saying 'you're welcome' to Cobb in the airport, etc. |
Where did they have the first talk? Cobb talked to the grandpa (when he needed an architect), where were they? Where was that school/university? Why was gramps out of the country, if grandma was in USA with the kids? And where's grandma in the end?
The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that Cobb was dreaming. And found a way to convince himself that he was awake, so that he could change his dream, one where he's allowed to be with his kids. When he was satisfied, with no more nagging doubts (that are like viruses), he settled.
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| Sabbath wrote: | | acidrock69 wrote: | | Joseph Gordon Levitt saying 'you're welcome' to Cobb in the airport, etc. |
Where did they have the first talk? Cobb talked to the grandpa (when he needed an architect), where were they? Where was that school/university? Why was gramps out of the country, if grandma was in USA with the kids? And where's grandma in the end?
The more I think of it, the more I'm convinced that Cobb was dreaming. And found a way to convince himself that he was awake, so that he could change his dream, one where he's allowed to be with his kids. When he was satisfied, with no more nagging doubts (that are like viruses), he settled. |
Where did who have the first talk? Leo and Levitt? They didn't say, just on a train briefly and then wherever they were when trying to leave the rooftop before being stopped by Saito. I have to see this again and pay attention for what Levitt did that Leo should be thankful for. Nevermind, it just hit me, when they were on the rooftop Levitt didn't want to do the inception job for Saito but Cobb insisted so he can get back home. Cobb needed him, and got through the job and back to the US because of him.
If you meant where Cobb and his dad first talked I'm not positive but I think it was England, where his dad teaches. The grandma Cobb referenced who was with his kids was probably Mal's mother seeing as that's who would typically watch the kids if a situation like this really happened. Not to mention the grandma didn't even get on the phone to talk to him.
The article I posted dismissed the notion that the whole movie was a dream as disingenuous to the audience and would mock our time and thought invested in watching the movie, and I think Nolan would do better than a 2hr cop-out. Now if some scenes we presumed were reality were actually dreams....
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The article I posted dismissed the notion that the whole movie was a dream as disingenuous to the audience and would mock our time and thought invested in watching the movie, and I think Nolan would do better than a 2hr cop-out. Now if some scenes we presumed were reality were actually dreams.... |
It's not a cop-out in this movie. This movie can be interpreted as an inception in itself towards the audience: was it real or not? The idea is planted by the spinning totem in the end.
But just like a dream, while what is happening is not real, the feelings you are experiencing are. That is exactly what Nolan was trying to achieve: plant an intriguing thought in the audience's mind, so that afterwards they can think and discuss about it, and come to new conclusions and ideas. That's what dreams are for, ultimately.
In the end, Cobb also comes to this understanding. He doesn't care anymore if the totem topples or not, he has made peace with himself and can look at his children's faces, dream or no dream.
So in the end, it doesn't matter if all of it was dream. The movie itself is a metaphor of a dream. It's the only movie I have ever seen that manages to pull this off without giving me the feeling it was a cop-out.
This article is the best explanation I have found so far about this film. Very interesting read!
http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/24477/1/NEVE R-WAKE-UP-THE-MEANING-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page 1.html
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| Il Padrino wrote: | | acidrock69 wrote: |
The article I posted dismissed the notion that the whole movie was a dream as disingenuous to the audience and would mock our time and thought invested in watching the movie, and I think Nolan would do better than a 2hr cop-out. Now if some scenes we presumed were reality were actually dreams.... |
It's not a cop-out in this movie. This movie can be interpreted as an inception in itself towards the audience: was it real or not? The idea is planted by the spinning totem in the end.
But just like a dream, while what is happening is not real, the feelings you are experiencing are. That is exactly what Nolan was trying to achieve: plant an intriguing thought in the audience's mind, so that afterwards they can think and discuss about it, and come to new conclusions and ideas. That's what dreams are for, ultimately.
In the end, Cobb also comes to this understanding. He doesn't care anymore if the totem topples or not, he has made peace with himself and can look at his children's faces, dream or no dream.
So in the end, it doesn't matter if all of it was dream. The movie itself is a metaphor of a dream. It's the only movie I have ever seen that manages to pull this off without giving me the feeling it was a cop-out.
This article is the best explanation I have found so far about this film. Very interesting read!
http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/24477/1/NEVE R-WAKE-UP-THE-MEANING-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page 1.html |
You and your link both have good points, but interpretation can debunk any view as no one knows for sure.
It's impossible to say what Nolan's aim was, it could easily be that the story was actually as it appears and Cobb gets back home and the little moments of doubt everyone points to are simply creative ways to make us call into question what is dream or reality. Just as the characters are constantly looking for unreal or impossible circumstances and looking to their totems we too are watching for things that only occur in the dream world and looking at Cobbs' totem to determine real or dream world. Also, Cobb could have walked away from the spinning totem because he knows he got back home to see his kids and reality wasn't in doubt. What was keeping him from seeing his kids wasn't him trying to make peace with himself, it was because he'd be arrested. Trying to make peace with himself was about accepting Mal's death and getting rid of her sabotaging his dreams. Two totally different issues that people are intertwining when they shouldn't.
While I agree that if I have ever seen a movie that turned out to be completely a dream this is the one I'd feel the least bit upset over becoming a cop-out. My point it why can't this movie be both the story that it is and call into question of what truly is reality? This part of the Yusuf interview I slinked sumsf up my thoughts....
| Quote: | Q: For me, though, this film could say "It's all a dream" and I would feel even more satisfied. Because the premise is "through a very complex dream, we can enact real change in a character." All of the sudden it's not a fake-out bullshit journey, if that's the case. In other words, if I'm satisfied by the success of Fischer's transformation, then Leo's growth is just as satisfying.
A: But he doesn't have to be dreaming for that growth. If, by way of example, in the last scene where Cobb ran off to hug his kids, there were a reflection of Mal in the window? That would make it far more vague and I'd say, sure. But that's not there.
Close your eyes and listen to the sound at the end. I really do think the top wobbles and that it's real. Cobb does go on a journey, because that's what movies are, and I think that's what leads audiences to this kind of speculation. Because of the story he chose to tell, Nolan is also commenting on the nature of stories themselves, all stories, which is why Leo's change can't be evidence that it's all a dream.
To me, the real story all boils down to Saito's line in the helicopter. Leo wants to go home and see his kids. Saito says, "I can help you, but it'll have to be an act of faith." Leo has to trust Saito, and he does this while putting total faith in himself and the team, and everything goes apeshit wrong, but he has to believe that if he does the job, Saito will do what he promised. And they've grown, they've become friends, which is why Leo says "Come back and let's be young men together." Leo's follow-through on that act of faith is his transformation. He becomes a person who can take a chance.
There's also kind of a beautiful negative symmetry between that leap of faith, and Mal begging him to make a similar leap of faith. After he did that with her, and the guilt plagues him, he can't function anymore. He's exploring his memories in a dangerous, unhealthy way, and he's going to let that go by the time the movie's over.
Everyone's so concerned about whether the top falls or not, but no one seems to care that Leo walked away without caring. The moment he sees their face, he can walk away. That's testimony to the fact that he's gained that faith. |
No one can say for sure but Nolan. I would love to know for sure in a blu-ray extra or something but he could very well leave this a mystery out of sheer enjoyment. HUGE difference when a director includes uncertainty, it can fail miserably like the Sopranos finale or it can spark endless discussion and philosophy like with the end of Inception. This is one of the few times I don't mind whether I'm right or wrong because I'm satisfied either way.[/code]
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| rado907 wrote: | Saw it today, it was OK.
Worth watching.
Action sequences were too long and characters were flat.
Movie was a mix of matrix/caper movies/ generic action.
Overall nothing special but worth watching. |
Couldn't agree more. Decent, but not as great as made out on here. I mean c'mon. A dream of a dream, of a dream? I was getting almost fed up waiting for the damn van to hit the water in the end up. These 50/50 endings are a pain in the ass, and seen it coming a mile off.
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| Bada_Boom wrote: | | rado907 wrote: | Saw it today, it was OK.
Worth watching.
Action sequences were too long and characters were flat.
Movie was a mix of matrix/caper movies/ generic action.
Overall nothing special but worth watching. |
Couldn't agree more. Decent, but not as great as made out on here. I mean c'mon. A dream of a dream, of a dream? I was getting almost fed up waiting for the damn van to hit the water in the end up. These 50/50 endings are a pain in the ass, and seen it coming a mile off. |
Are you saying that you didn't enjoy the Zero gravity fights? And the Castle fight?
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| Posted: 08-02-2010 06:25 PM Subject: |
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i went with Inception 2010 TS V2 NEW AUDIO XviD-PrisM...watchable for sure..
btw....i thought it was good but im not so sure about life changing or whatever..
ill watch it again when a R5 or whatever pops out
but over all good flick
B+ mayb even a "A" once i watch it again at sum other time and see
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http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939332
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That's only one image...you can't have a "Vs" without at least 2 sides. Where's the other image...WHERE I SAY!!
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I was disappointed in this. The movie explained too much and left only the ending open for interpretation (if you want to call it that).
I was expecting a much more thought-provoking and mind-fucking experience but I guess you can't expect a truly intelligent movie in mainstream Hollywood. I was much more impressed with Mr. Nobody.
7.5/10.
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| Shwaggy wrote: | I was disappointed in this. The movie explained too much and left only the ending open for interpretation (if you want to call it that).
I was expecting a much more thought-provoking and mind-fucking experience but I guess you can't expect a truly intelligent movie in mainstream Hollywood. I was much more impressed with Mr. Nobody.
7.5/10. |
WTF?! Are you extracting my thoughts? I agree 100%! |
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| Shwaggy wrote: | I was disappointed in this. The movie explained too much and left only the ending open for interpretation (if you want to call it that).
I was expecting a much more thought-provoking and mind-fucking experience but I guess you can't expect a truly intelligent movie in mainstream Hollywood. I was much more impressed with Mr. Nobody.
7.5/10. |
You expecting something that this movie definitely not was. It was however a very well put together movie, good story, acting, action and sound. If you it at like that, this is one of the best movies in this decade easily. |
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This movie is definitely not the best movie of the past 10 years. How else was I was supposed to go into this movie? They advertised this movie as a psychological thriller that would leave you with thoughts about our inner psyche. This came out more like an instruction manual.
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| Shwaggy wrote: | | This movie is definitely not the best movie of the past 10 years. How else was I was supposed to go into this movie? They advertised this movie as a psychological thriller that would leave you with thoughts about our inner psyche. This came out more like an instruction manual. |
Well I never heard anything about this movie untill I watched it. So I had zero expectations. |
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| Posted: 08-05-2010 12:36 AM Subject: |
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I wish a surprise r5 would come out so I could watch this again.
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Saw it last night, excellent film, I was really impressed by it. Great story, acting, effects. Quite thought provoking as well. Compared to 99% of what comes out of Hollywood, this was a rare gem.
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| 0Tolerence wrote: | | Shwaggy wrote: | | This movie is definitely not the best movie of the past 10 years. How else was I was supposed to go into this movie? They advertised this movie as a psychological thriller that would leave you with thoughts about our inner psyche. This came out more like an instruction manual. |
Well I never heard anything about this movie untill I watched it. So I had zero expectations. |
I just saw the 9.3 score on IMDB. Knew it will be a great experience, but still kept it spoiler free 
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Inception 2010 Unrated DvdScreener Xvid - IMAGINE
goodtimes
samples legit, hopefully the rest comes out the same. Ive seen this badboy 3 times in theatres, ive paid my dues.
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| krazykarl1982 wrote: | Inception 2010 Unrated DvdScreener Xvid - IMAGINE
goodtimes
samples legit, hopefully the rest comes out the same. Ive seen this badboy 3 times in theatres, ive paid my dues. |
fake, used same sample as the one that was leaked out with the 5mins of the movie preview |
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| Posted: 08-06-2010 08:11 PM Subject: |
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yup..fake...
but there T.S is real
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| A lot of debate going on here, but Cobb walks away from the spinning top at the end. He doesn't stay to see the results. The situation seems ambiguous, but with the fact above considered, it's actually not so. I don't think there's suppose to be a debate about whether or not Cobb is really dreaming, because whether or not is not the point. His walking away from the spinning top, and what that gesture implies, that is the point. |
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very thought provoking movie
i liked it 8.5/10 |
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I really enjoyed it.
For me the end was great. If he wasn't dreaming then it would have been a nice happy ending without much to think about, but if he was then it would prove his wife was right to kill herself. And if that was the case then the questions just increase, like would his wife try to kill herself again and again, how many levels down was he (because he was on that one for a fucking long time so he was either deep or sleeping for a long time) and then how many levels is it possible to go down to, was he alone is his dream or were others sharing it with him, etc.
The only thing I didn't like was the wasted opportunity for some serious city bending action and the shitty castle battle. After the shifting/zero grav fight I was prepped for some crazy visuals, but it didn't deliver.
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Saw it at the theater and I think it's worth paying for.
The open ending was interesting and I like that they didn't make it a typical happy or sad ending. Very nice. Crysis 0 G scenes were awesome and at times I really wasn't even sure if it was all CG or using ropes. I really liked the realistic effects and slow motion scenes (I do slow-mo filming too).
I definitely agree that it was disappointing to only see like one city bending scene since 50% of the commercials were just that. I think once the girl learned how to create and modify a world, she should have kept modifying places in real-time, and she didn't...wtf?
Good movie though!
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